July 27, 2024

Bombad Jedi vs. For the World is Hollow and I Have Touched the Sky (with Guest Patrick Cotnoir)

Bombad Jedi vs. For the World is Hollow and I Have Touched the Sky (with Guest Patrick Cotnoir)

Patrick Cotnoir (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCH1XwfxXB--rl_Nqxvun8zQ) comes to defend Jar-Jar. 

Kenny goes on about how Star Trek fans are freaks. We collectively talk about how Star Wars fans are freaks. Patrick tells Aspen about Tag and...

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Patrick Cotnoir (The George Lucas Talk Show)!!! comes to defend Jar-Jar.

Kenny goes on about how Star Trek fans are freaks. We collectively talk about how Star Wars fans are freaks. Patrick tells Aspen about Tag and Bink. And we (possibly) put Brotherwatch to an end.

Also how are we even supposed to remember this Star Trek ep title? Petition to rename the episode.

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Welcome to the Trek Wars Podcast, the one podcast that

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dares to answer the most important question in a fandom,

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which is better Star Trek or Star Wars by going

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through both franchises in chronological release order. I am Kenny Madison,

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the Star Trek contingent with me as Per always as

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the co host with my hosts.

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See Aspen correctly a rapping Star Wars.

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It is the best.

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Uh, what the look on your face was like? It

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was a lot.

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Sorry already I was worried about shape of show for

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some reason though we were literally sixty seconds in. Uh,

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but we got a lot of show to get to.

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We got a lot of show to get to. We

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got a lot of show to get to.

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There's so many beautiful things.

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And the more that I repeat it there time that

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we have. Anyways, Uh, we have an amazing guest today

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from the George Lucas Talk Show. From I'm George Lucas,

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the docu Eventuary. I believe it's pronounced partick ye actually

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pack pack. Patrick Cottner is our guest today. Hi. How

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are you both? Oh?

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Great, that's great, really good.

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It was just like so happy to be here.

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Regular work earlier and I just like being like, just

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get through it. You can like doll stuff. That's how

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I feel.

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That's great. I mean, we're here, we're doing it. We

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get to talk about two episodes.

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Yes, speaking of getting through it, Aspen, we are talking

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about from Star Wars to Clone Wars. Bomb Bad Jedi

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from season.

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Episode It is a good episode.

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It's not a good episode versus Wow where the world

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is hollow and I have touched this guy from season

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three of Star Trek the original series.

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An episode that feels like twelve other episodes on Star

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Trek the original series.

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You are not wrong. That's a running theme that we

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are hitting here in season three of Star Trek the

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Original series.

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It's true, but it's true in this one, at least

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in this one, she doesn't die. Sure, and also in

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this one not to skip ahead, because we'll go through

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our thing. I like to see McCoy get some get

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some love, because I think that man is hot stuff

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and he deserves that. So but you're absolutely right, and

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thank you so much.

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You're right.

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Bombed Jedi a great episode.

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Yeah, Kindle, Well, look, I think I think three is

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hot and can get some, So that's true.

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I agree with that.

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Yes, parallels to these episodes than we think what mccoay,

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not dissimilar characters, sorry to hop in, but like not dissimilar.

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Not dissimilar. You are correct, and also how dare you

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hop in? We have you just really is as window dressing,

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so please try and stay as silent as possible. But

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you're weird.

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To look pretty, which is an audio medium.

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Is perfect.

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That's the ideal spots to look pretty because everyone will

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think you're pretty even if they don't know what you

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look like.

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You know, speaking of visual items, we've got a piece

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of business to get to. Let me play some sort

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of sound effect in order to queue up.

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Business accessing library computer day one.

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Prior to the start of the podcast, Patrick quite rightly

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noticed my Blu Ray because I do believe in physical

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media's Yeah, Star Wars the Clone Wars the complete season

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one in digipack. Oh here we go. Oh my goodness,

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I'm so sorry.

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Took a second to get up there, but we got it,

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and I had to go over and get my Star

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Wars the Clone Wars Season one Blu Ray and digipack.

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Interesting that Aspen is the Star Wars contingent but does

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not have Star Wars the Clone Wars season one on

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Blu Ray and dig youpack along with this really lovely.

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Here's a book I like, okay.

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Just something, but does it have does it have all

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of this concept? Are talk at all of it?

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Does it have a sketch from Dave Filoni that just

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says plo cool.

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He loves plo cool ploku in his fave.

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Does it?

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But there is all about how Hart and Kanaan Jarri's

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bella mom. Yeah, yeah, but no, I wish, I wish.

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I've never actually looked through There is like a book

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inside and I've never actually looked through it. But I

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did just spend over one hundred dollars on the art

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of the Clone Wars.

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Book, so so that's like looking through that, like looking

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through that inside the Clone Wars.

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I really I was bothered that I had every other

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art of book except for the Clone Wars one, and

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it's very out of print, and I know that as

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soon as I buy it it's going to come back

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and print again.

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Yes, But.

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And then I bought it and it got here and

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it's smaller than all of the other art of books,

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and that really sucks because you put it on the

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you put it on the shelf and you're like, they

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don't all look the same. Why did we see this?

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That's not my sense.

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There's so much content.

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There's way more content in all of Clone Wars than I.

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Believe the book is only for season one maybe season two?

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That okay, there we go, all right, because my follow

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up question was twofold one. It wasn't. It's doesn't sound

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like it's the Clone Wars companion, which I want as

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a completist, but and also just as research for this

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TV show, because it seems like there is very little

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like actual behind the scenes content where they are actually

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talking about the process outside of the five minute featurettes. Yeah,

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which is too it feels like there should be, but

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also like they can't say anything for like twenty twenty

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five years. It feels like or maybe since the MCU

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book came out, maybe like ten years or so.

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Yeah, well real quick, sorry, Patrick, Are you like a

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completionist like Kenny is in that both a collection and

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in consumption.

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Yeah, it's a problem.

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I mean, I dare say that Patrick probably has it

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a little bit more.

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Probably that is one of the reasons. And look, I'm

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going to be frank, I'm going to be upfront with you, guys.

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I'm not a truck guy. I'm not a track guy.

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I've seen. I've seen. I've seen the all the original movie,

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like all of the original cast movies, outstanding movies. Yes, well, sure,

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I've seen the JJ movies, A good solid chunk of

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season one of the original series. I've seen season one.

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Jesus am I a trek guy.

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I seen, I've watched all his Star Trek Voyage here

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deep cut. But the animated series you have to love

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your way into it. It's very interesting.

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I watched season one of Strange New Worlds, and I

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think that is it.

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You watch plenty of Star Trek, you watch his Lower Decks.

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I know that is what I've heard. A lot of

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friends are.

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On that show.

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I met the creator a couple of nights ago. The

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current showrunner I'm on a trivia team with. Haven't watched

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Lower Decks. I'm so sorry, guys, I'm so sorry.

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I was Actually I was like easy going to name Drup.

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Oh of course you got it a little bit.

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I love it.

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Yeah, No, it is something that I think I would like,

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and like a lot of people I know are on it,

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and it feels like it should be the easy path

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in for me, and I'm sure I will watch it

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at some point, but I think Trek as a whole

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just feels so overwhelming to me in the same way

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that like Doctor Who does Oh oh my gosh, you know,

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because I didn't start it when I was young, and

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now it just feels like there's too much.

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Yes, there is, that's correct, a lot of track. I guess.

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I guess there is more Star Wars than I ever

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even knew when I was I mean didn't exist when

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I was young.

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Sure, I guess to.

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That end there armor, But yeah, in terms of Star Trek,

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it is, it is a lot. It's a lot.

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I mean, people just keep telling me, they're like, go

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watch Next Generation, but skip season one and then start

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with season three and whatever, and I'm just like, that's

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too much. That's too like if I'm going to watch it,

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I need to watch the whole thing. And uh, because

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you're a completionist, because I'm a completenist.

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And I mean, honestly, if you're looking for the endpoint,

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Star Trek lower text as well, it's being funny just

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offers a synthesis of so many touch points of Star

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Trek that you can you can seem like a track

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guy without actually being a Trek guy.

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I also think I know enough about Star Trek as

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a whole, you know what I mean? I could tell

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you the main actors on basically all the shows I

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feel like or like what their general characters are, like,

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I know the things, but it's mostly from just like

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reading Wikipedia at like three am. Yeah, it's like that

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kind of thing. Prove it, prove it, yeah, prove it

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for me.

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Spock.

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Yeah, you did it.

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That's just one character. Though, that's just one character. There

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are multiple characters named Spock right where Spock Spock? Yeah? Also, yeah,

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well they're got a brother, Spock. Spock is not a

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last name, Patrick his last name.

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But what are his parents name?

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Sarah and Amanda?

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Oh yeah, Sarah and Amanda is true, we do know this,

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I forgot.

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Yeah. And then also his brother is well, and also

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his sister is uh uh Michael Burnham. And then his

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half brother is Syebuck.

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And his boyfriend is k lover Is McCoy. So yeah, yeah, well, so, uh,

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you're obviously a star, a huge star.

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Wars Wars boy. Yeah, you're fortunately.

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Boy, which it's not unfortunately, it's not unfortunate the whole

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the whole concept of this podcast that Kenny was like,

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you're a Star Wars person and I'm a Star Trek person,

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so I will I will be always with you.

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So ask but is there any Star Wars stuff that

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you have not seen?

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Ah?

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I saw lifely your there's no resists.

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I have not seen Resistance, and I haven't seen any

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of the lego stuff.

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Okay, so but some of the lego stuff is very fun.

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Yeah, Okay, maybe it's worth it then.

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Important to the story of the metanarrative of Star Wars,

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right Patrick. So also.

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The Star Wars lego thing that is coming out in

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a few months, I think will be very worth your time.

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The Rebuild the Galaxy with Bobby moynihan in it. It's

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basically a what if for Star Wars and it's gonna

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freaking rule. So I can tell you that's a that's

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a good get on board.

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Spot.

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The holiday special is very fun. A lot of the

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recent specials are fun. And the Freemaker Adventures, which is

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a lego Star Wars TV show, is also very fun.

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So fine, fine, Kenny. I think that he's doing this

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because he was like, do you want to do lego

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and I want.

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I wanted, I said, what would Patrick Cottner do? And

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I have the spreadsheet prepared to cover everything that has

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the words Star Wars on it outside of R two

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D two Beneath the Dome because that's not canonical. That's

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sub that's subcanonical.

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Oh interesting, Okay, well.

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Because that's not furthering the narrative of Star Wars itself.

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had to get. We got to get through all of

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you walks and droids. Yes, and I just really wanted

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to get to my Clone Wars.

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My sweet gentle, I have not seen any full episodes

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of e Walks, and I've seen a handful of droids

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it's very bizarre. I'm imagining Lucas telling the folks that

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what the heck happened on that show too, who knows,

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but Lucas being like, I think that we can do

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serialized storytelling two or three episodes at a time, completely

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changed the characters every single serial. Yeah, and it feels

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the Star warsiest of both Ewoks and Droids.

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by Ben Burt and like a lot of the design

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a lot of it, and you're just like, yeah, talk

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about this show, anybody, Like, someone give me something about

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this show.

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What happened I know, and especially what it feels like

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to be like excluded from the largest Star Wars narrative totally.

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Even the holiday specialists talked about more than Ewoks and Droids. Yeah,

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but like for two ish years that was Star Wars.

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have watched it because they'll take and borrow concepts or

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designs from it. Like you'll see it and it's really interesting.

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Like Kylo Wren do you mean kai Bo Wren? I

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do mean KAIOI? God? All those yes, all these names.

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There's like different vehicles and stuff. It's very very good.

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The Droids theme song gets stuck in my head very often,

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like yeah.

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Yeah, it's great, it's so fun.

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If people haven't watched it, it's it's all on Disney

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Plus go check it out, and it like looks pretty

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good too.

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and the I'm just like this is this is great.

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chronological orders, so you know, we were going back.

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In chronological relategical release.

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Ken, he actually knows what's up. I'm just here to

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be funny, so this laugh is like, Okay, good job,

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great job. Yeah, chronology chronological release orders, so we have

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to go droids. He walks and he walks is pretty good.

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But it is as we decided and to find for babies.

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So it would be interesting just to watch straight Droids.

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I thought it would have been a little bit easier

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to get through.

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Okay, so you've want so you've watched all of Droids

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and you walks for this? Did you do the gen

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D clone warks? Oh yeah, okay, did you do the

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did you do the movie? What do you count the

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movie as?

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Yeah, did the motion Okay? Okay, it's not TV, so

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I didn't know what the you know we do?

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Oh yeah, we're covering you're covering everything outside of like

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we're not doing the books. No, but you think Here's

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what I'll say.

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I think you have time to reconsider that Lego stuff

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because that's not coming for a while.

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Actually, Patrick, it's already started. Really. Oh yeah, frontic or whatever.

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Revenge of the Brick, which was released in two thousand

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and five and aired on Cartoon Network. If I'm a station,

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you're right, Well, there's time you could. You could switch

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it up. No one will get let meet you and

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you see let me see the sheet. There's the sheet.

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Okay yeah, aired on Cartoon Network on May five, and

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then in August twenty seventh, two thousand and five, another

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Lego piece, Lego Star Wars request for R two D two.

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Oh I forgot Revenge of the Brick looks insane.

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I'm so sorry.

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Because on for like the wrong episode. Should we have

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just brought you on to talk about you? Ever?

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Do?

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If you?

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If you do Lego Star Wars, I will come back

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for as many as you want. Sorr, I go, but

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as I need you to google Revenge of the brick

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just to look at the character.

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Because it may change.

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It may change. Also, according to Wikipedia, Mark Hamill was

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involved in the creation of this project and narrates a

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making of feature on the website. On Wikipedia, he is

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listed as a director.

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That's wild.

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I've never heard that before.

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No, we should get him on the pod to talk

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about it.

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Love.

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We understand that you have some association with Star Wars.

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Can you talk about your directory? Ef It just looks insane.

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The design is crazy.

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Yeah, I do like this grievous design. We love it. Grievous.

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We love God.

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I love grievous. Yes, love grievous.

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We love.

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We're not We're not here to talk about general grievous

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or we should be our favorite, our favorite bad boy. No,

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we're here to talk about for the world is hollow

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and I have touched this guy versus a cool chill

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episode bomb at Jedi, which I'm sure whenever it came

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out the reaction was chill.

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Yeah, do you wanna do you wanna want to do

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some just graptions?

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Yes?

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For folks that are playing the home game, yeah what what? What? What?

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What's fun for folks that are playing the home game version?

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Stephen Ate Sure for his syndicated TV preview column from

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November eight, nineteen sixty eight, as carried in The Valley

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Independent in Monison, Pennsylvania, he wrote, DeForest Kelly gets his

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biggest role to date on Star Trek, and he does

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very well with it. As Doctor McCoy, he finds himself

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suffering from a rare disease, which he diagnoses as incurable,

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giving himself a year to live. As fate would have it,

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the Enterprise finds a planet whose destruction is assured by

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being on a collision course with another planet. The world

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is ruled by a queen who does not permit her

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subjects to know the truth. When she meets doctor McCoy,

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who chooses him to be her mate. The doctor, knowing

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his own condition, allows himself to become enslaved with the

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lady and by their electronic oracle. Kate Woodville is featured.

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I feel like that's not exactly good. It's a weird

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it's a weird sort of characterization of her as a

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high priestess who was also fooled and tricked and not

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He's not enslaved.

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Sorry, Kenny, there's no weird power dynamics in the episode. Now.

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The writer is Rick Vallart. The director is Tony Leader

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on his only Star Trek episode in This episode aired

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November eighth, nineteen sixty eight.

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Okay, cool, cool, cool, Okay, it's my turn. We're gonna

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do Star Wars Glonors.

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Bomb, Bad Jedi.

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First of a three parter, a great little arc of joy.

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We got director Jesse yeah yeah, yeah, yes, yeah hye

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eh and writing credits is Stephen Melsching, Henry Gilroy, and

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Kevin Rubio and came out on November twenty first, two

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thousand and eight.

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Okay.

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Padme travels to Rodia to meet with old family friend

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on Aiconda Far about the lack of food ration.

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I'm so sorry.

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There's the backgrounds.

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Is there a back there? No?

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I think it's someone upstairs.

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Oh is it gone? No way, I think.

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There's someone upstairs.

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Vacuum.

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I'll start over. Badme travels to Roady had to meet

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with old family friend Junaconda Far about the lack of

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food rations. Unfortunately, Farr has just made a deal with

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the separatists. Padme is in prisoned, leaving up to charge

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our banks and c through Bo to rescue her.

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Yay, great episode.

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It's got padme being redeemed as a character. It's got frankly,

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Jarge are being redeemed as a character.

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It's kind of frankly new Gun Ray speaking slightly more

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normal than he normally does, much better.

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Yeah, there's a lot of dicey race stuff, and I'm

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glad that us three white people will be able to to.

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I think we'll be able to. I think that we will.

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We are the experts on.

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That put a little bit of stink on the name

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Kevin Rubio. Now, why did you put a little bit

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of extra stank on Kevin Ruby?

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I didn't, but I'll go along with this. I did totally.

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I was like, oh god, Kevin Rubio.

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Do you know who Kevin Rubio is? Aspen?

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Oh no, Aspen?

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Do you know who Kevin Rubio is? Yeah, well, don't.

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Look it up. Let us tell you. This is an

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audio podcast, not a visual podcast.

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No, we don't know. That's the whole point.

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They can't see it, Kevin, but they can see it

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if they subscribe to the YouTube VA trek Wars pod.

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Go to the note section below.

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Okay, tell me who Kevin Rubio.

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Is, Kenny, do you want to tell her? Do you

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want me?

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He no, Patrick Key your job to start Star Wars.

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Kevin Rubio directed the fan film Troops, which is a

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Cops parody except it takes place on Tattooine. It's one

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of the first like fan films that made its way

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around in the modern era. It was like early to

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mid nineties, I want to say, like ninety five. Maybe

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it's very funny. It's about sand troopers on tattooine, like

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you know, arresting Jawas and stuff. It's very good. And

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he did that and then got hired to write on

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Clone Wars.

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Oh my god. Yeah, why in the world would I

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ever put a stink on that name?

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I don't know, but I don't know. It just sounded

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like you put a stink on it. I was.

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I was actually really worried that Kevin Rubio had apparently

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done some terrible thing in the past.

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He also wrote Tag and Bink. Do you know about

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Tag and Bink?

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Tag?

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Wait? Isn't the film tag?

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No?

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Or is it Tag and Bank?

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Okay?

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The Star Wars comic Tag and Bink?

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Oh No, I haven't read the comics. Oh Aspen, Okay, listen,

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I just listen. I like these things.

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Yeah, good, Tag and Bink is basically Rosencrans and Gilderstern

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are dead, basically, but except guys in the Star Wars universe,

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like seeing everything happen. They're like two happless stormtroopers, like,

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oh no, we're now, we're on the dust Star and

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why why are they swinging across the shat? You know,

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like they see every single thing throughout the whole throughout

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the whole saga. It's fun, it's silly, it's very dumb

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tagging Bink. We're gonna be in solo in the original,

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in the Lord and Miller solo, and then they got

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cut out.

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Solo notoriously chill production. Yeah, everything's very normal. Everything was

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normal about that.

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Yeah, let me try again. Writing reddits Steven Melsching, Henry Goroy,

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Kevin Rubio.

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Oh wait, who's Kevin Rubio?

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Oh so Kevin Ruvio made this fan film called Troops

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back in like ninety five, and he also made this

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other great tagging banks thing. I don't you love this

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but beautiful stuff, brilliant loved it.

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I I thought he wrote a lot of Clone Wars,

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when in fact this is his singular episode of Clone Wars.

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Fascinating in my brain he wrote a bunch, yeah, because

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I want the story to be like a fan film.

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Guy turned Star Wars hundred Star Wars Guy. No, just

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just the one episode. I'm done well because this episode's

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not good. That's why he got fired. George Lucas brought

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him in and was like, you're fired.

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Oh boy, wow, we're not having a good time.

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We're having a great time. Look at this. We've got

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DVDs Erry Vault, Enter the Vault. Cool.

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So was some first impress I'm sorry. There's one more thing.

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If you go to his Instagram, it's three selfies up

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top that looked like they were taking in the same day.

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Two of the photos are exactly the same.

481
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Got gotta go to Kevin Rubio's.

482
00:25:03.680 --> 00:25:09.319
Yeah, and this, uh Kevin, Oh my gosh, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, okay,

483
00:25:09.759 --> 00:25:12.599
just this is perfect for an audio stadium.

484
00:25:12.599 --> 00:25:14.039
It's fine. People can't check it out.

485
00:25:14.799 --> 00:25:17.559
We're this is your wave.

486
00:25:18.279 --> 00:25:19.880
Okay, okay, now we're talking.

487
00:25:20.920 --> 00:25:23.960
Oh my god, Oh my gosh, that Kevin Rubio.

488
00:25:24.240 --> 00:25:30.519
Oh yeah, well okay, I'm on a different Instagram page.

489
00:25:30.279 --> 00:25:35.440
Okay, live. Oh oh that's not only do were they

490
00:25:35.440 --> 00:25:38.119
taken on the same day. Two of these are actually

491
00:25:38.160 --> 00:25:43.079
just the same. That's true to all out there. I'm alive,

492
00:25:43.319 --> 00:25:46.880
just not very talkative. That's four weeks ago. Oh and

493
00:25:46.920 --> 00:25:50.720
then twenty weeks ago. Uh, looks like he's going through

494
00:25:51.000 --> 00:25:52.519
going through some health stuff.

495
00:25:52.640 --> 00:25:54.400
Gone through some health stuff. It looks like he is

496
00:25:54.480 --> 00:25:59.920
someone who supports women. Sure, it's like he's a secret swiftye.

497
00:26:00.039 --> 00:26:01.559
One who supports the wolf man.

498
00:26:02.480 --> 00:26:09.920
Yeah, of the wolfman in here he's got He's posted

499
00:26:09.960 --> 00:26:13.119
Taylor Swift person the year from Time and said they

500
00:26:13.160 --> 00:26:13.799
got it right.

501
00:26:14.480 --> 00:26:14.920
Yeah.

502
00:26:15.039 --> 00:26:18.240
He posted that dumb AI generated the muppets in the

503
00:26:18.279 --> 00:26:19.279
thing picture that was.

504
00:26:19.279 --> 00:26:21.480
Going around online for a while. Yeah.

505
00:26:21.519 --> 00:26:24.720
So can't win them all, I guess. But we feel

506
00:26:24.720 --> 00:26:27.240
okay about AI, right, Yeah, we love that chill.

507
00:26:27.480 --> 00:26:30.640
It's chill and normal.

508
00:26:31.440 --> 00:26:34.319
I was just for for my job making a self

509
00:26:34.319 --> 00:26:38.279
based course on AI. Great, but you know, for like

510
00:26:39.240 --> 00:26:42.599
ill not ill good ill. We don't like it.

511
00:26:42.880 --> 00:26:45.039
I mean, I don't know. I don't tell anybody speak

512
00:26:46.440 --> 00:26:49.480
what this is a podcast? You just told everyone.

513
00:26:49.640 --> 00:26:50.440
Don't tell anybody.

514
00:26:51.279 --> 00:26:53.640
Speaking of telling everyone, our first impressions on both of

515
00:26:53.680 --> 00:26:56.920
these episodes, let's talk about let's let's talk about for

516
00:26:57.000 --> 00:26:59.079
the world is hollow and I have touched this Guy first,

517
00:26:59.079 --> 00:26:59.960
and then we'll talk about Bomb.

518
00:27:00.559 --> 00:27:02.440
Of course you want to talk about that one first.

519
00:27:03.359 --> 00:27:06.759
Well, yeah, because shape of show. I don't know if

520
00:27:06.799 --> 00:27:08.000
you notice that, not because you.

521
00:27:08.119 --> 00:27:10.640
Love it and you want to kiss it.

522
00:27:11.000 --> 00:27:13.279
I think this is the greatest episode of Star Trek

523
00:27:13.319 --> 00:27:16.160
that's ever happened, period.

524
00:27:16.599 --> 00:27:18.319
Ask a real question, what do you think the greatest

525
00:27:18.319 --> 00:27:19.599
episode of Star Trek that ever happened?

526
00:27:19.640 --> 00:27:23.880
Period? Is the Visitor from Star Trek Deep Space nine?

527
00:27:24.839 --> 00:27:26.759
Yeah, it would be from It would be from Deep

528
00:27:26.799 --> 00:27:27.319
Space nine.

529
00:27:27.519 --> 00:27:31.759
An episode that reduces the Star Trek. I have such

530
00:27:31.799 --> 00:27:34.519
a close relationship with Star Trek, it's very hard to

531
00:27:35.880 --> 00:27:40.359
kind of get extremely moved, yeah by it, but the

532
00:27:40.480 --> 00:27:43.599
Visitor reduces me to tears to.

533
00:27:47.039 --> 00:27:48.799
Mine. Would be City on the Edge of Forever from

534
00:27:48.839 --> 00:27:51.559
original series, an episode.

535
00:27:51.160 --> 00:27:53.160
I gave up full ass ten.

536
00:27:54.279 --> 00:27:59.440
Wow I am it makes me sob But yeah, anything else,

537
00:27:59.640 --> 00:28:00.119
I don't.

538
00:27:59.920 --> 00:28:02.880
Know what's In terms of original series? What do I

539
00:28:02.920 --> 00:28:04.039
think the best episode is?

540
00:28:04.319 --> 00:28:06.799
S nine is truly one of the best series of

541
00:28:06.880 --> 00:28:08.680
anything I've ever seen in my life.

542
00:28:08.960 --> 00:28:09.200
Wow.

543
00:28:09.480 --> 00:28:10.759
Sline is so good.

544
00:28:11.000 --> 00:28:13.079
Oh no, it's great. You know what's great from the

545
00:28:13.079 --> 00:28:19.319
original series freaking Balance of Terror, My guy, Balance of terror,

546
00:28:19.400 --> 00:28:21.960
But I also have mirror Mirror as a nine point five.

547
00:28:22.480 --> 00:28:27.839
Yeah, mirror Mirror, that's the famous yes, yes, yeah, who

548
00:28:27.839 --> 00:28:29.319
We're not talking about those great as.

549
00:28:29.359 --> 00:28:32.200
We're talking about this milk Toast episode of Startcrown before

550
00:28:32.240 --> 00:28:33.920
the World is Hollow and I have touched this guy.

551
00:28:33.960 --> 00:28:36.079
What don't we think about this episode? Gang? Were they

552
00:28:36.160 --> 00:28:38.799
making an episode because they had to fill this loot

553
00:28:38.880 --> 00:28:39.400
on NBC?

554
00:28:41.480 --> 00:28:43.079
Who Are they just making an app just to make

555
00:28:43.119 --> 00:28:46.880
an Appeah? Probably? But you know, were they making an

556
00:28:46.880 --> 00:28:50.000
apps that it could give McCoy some time to shine? No,

557
00:28:50.160 --> 00:28:53.440
I don't hate it for that. Yeah, I love that man.

558
00:28:53.799 --> 00:28:57.440
DeForest Kelly gets some different things to do in this

559
00:28:57.519 --> 00:29:02.279
episode and flexes very much. He's just the acerbic wit

560
00:29:03.119 --> 00:29:07.319
or just generally acerbic within the triumvirate. And at this

561
00:29:07.400 --> 00:29:09.640
time you get to see him play sincere, you get

562
00:29:09.640 --> 00:29:11.079
to see him play a little bit raw.

563
00:29:11.839 --> 00:29:13.559
Yeah, he'serble.

564
00:29:14.160 --> 00:29:16.319
What was wild about that performance is that I was like,

565
00:29:16.400 --> 00:29:20.640
this is almost childlike in terms of the sincerity that

566
00:29:20.799 --> 00:29:26.279
was involved. He is just it's it's it's really delightful

567
00:29:26.319 --> 00:29:30.000
to watch DeForest flex some different acting muscles.

568
00:29:30.079 --> 00:29:32.599
And at the end he's so excited that they're going

569
00:29:32.680 --> 00:29:33.359
to go back there.

570
00:29:34.519 --> 00:29:36.519
Yeah, he was like cute little moment where he's just

571
00:29:36.559 --> 00:29:42.400
like little little his little cute face smile.

572
00:29:43.559 --> 00:29:45.559
He's just like, Wow, well, well.

573
00:29:45.480 --> 00:29:48.119
We're gonna have a minute jeweler and have a good time.

574
00:29:51.680 --> 00:29:55.480
What a dude. I looked it up, but I didn't

575
00:29:55.480 --> 00:29:58.279
find anything. Is the name of this a reference to

576
00:29:58.319 --> 00:29:59.920
anything in particular.

577
00:29:59.759 --> 00:30:01.119
No, not that I'm aware of.

578
00:30:01.880 --> 00:30:04.480
It's a justly long name and heart.

579
00:30:04.119 --> 00:30:08.880
It's just some the writer, I guess, the director, all

580
00:30:08.920 --> 00:30:10.839
of them are just very proud of this line of

581
00:30:10.880 --> 00:30:15.559
dialogue that feels so ham fisted to be the title

582
00:30:15.599 --> 00:30:20.839
line for at least within the context of the episode. Yeah,

583
00:30:21.400 --> 00:30:22.680
because most most.

584
00:30:22.480 --> 00:30:25.839
Original series titles are like three words, Max, I feel

585
00:30:25.880 --> 00:30:29.559
like right or or in that general realm of like

586
00:30:29.680 --> 00:30:31.000
not twelve words.

587
00:30:31.200 --> 00:30:32.920
But then every once in a while we get an

588
00:30:32.960 --> 00:30:35.200
and the children shall lead the City on the edge

589
00:30:35.200 --> 00:30:39.119
of forever. Sure, I'm sure that there are some longs

590
00:30:39.160 --> 00:30:41.359
that I'm forgetting, because there's a lot of episodes of

591
00:30:41.400 --> 00:30:41.839
Star Trek.

592
00:30:41.920 --> 00:30:43.240
We just had one, but I think it was like

593
00:30:43.279 --> 00:30:45.480
a Shakespearean thing, so I'll forgive it for that.

594
00:30:46.119 --> 00:30:48.880
Not the King from the first season and the children.

595
00:30:48.920 --> 00:30:51.319
Shall I guess I could technically look at the spread

596
00:30:52.079 --> 00:30:55.440
good look, but get away from the spreadsheet. It is

597
00:30:55.519 --> 00:30:56.119
it is wild.

598
00:30:56.279 --> 00:31:00.000
As someone who is bad at remembering names of anything,

599
00:31:00.440 --> 00:31:04.960
I'll just be like, and the world was fast and

600
00:31:05.440 --> 00:31:07.079
uh poked it?

601
00:31:07.440 --> 00:31:09.720
Do you think that's what the episode should have been

602
00:31:09.759 --> 00:31:10.519
called for? The world is.

603
00:31:10.480 --> 00:31:12.640
Past, the world is fast and I poked it?

604
00:31:12.720 --> 00:31:15.119
I think you actually said, and the what I heard

605
00:31:15.240 --> 00:31:18.279
was and the world is fast and post it? That

606
00:31:18.440 --> 00:31:19.279
was what I heard.

607
00:31:20.680 --> 00:31:22.799
I really do like that too. I like that Mark.

608
00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:25.039
I think one is fun and the world.

609
00:31:24.880 --> 00:31:25.720
Is fast and post it.

610
00:31:25.960 --> 00:31:31.200
Yeah. No, Patrick, as our guest and self professed not

611
00:31:31.240 --> 00:31:35.759
really a Star Trek guy, Yeah, honest opinions about this

612
00:31:35.839 --> 00:31:41.000
episode as someone who if Star Trek was on fire

613
00:31:41.440 --> 00:31:43.799
on the sidewalk and you're walking past it, you would

614
00:31:43.799 --> 00:31:46.880
not pee to put the fire out? Do I have

615
00:31:46.960 --> 00:31:48.920
to pee? Yah?

616
00:31:49.200 --> 00:31:50.960
Oh, you have to be very bad, I have to

617
00:31:51.000 --> 00:31:53.000
be very well. Then I would probably I would at

618
00:31:53.079 --> 00:31:56.519
least put some of it out, you know. Sure, I

619
00:31:56.559 --> 00:31:58.319
don't know Peter put all of it out, but I

620
00:31:58.400 --> 00:32:00.279
understand what you're saying. But then you would be like,

621
00:32:00.599 --> 00:32:03.240
I've got to get somewhere sure, sure, sure, yes, yes

622
00:32:03.559 --> 00:32:04.759
you can put the rest of it out.

623
00:32:04.839 --> 00:32:07.759
Yeah, yeah, go ahead, Yeah, I got the process started.

624
00:32:07.960 --> 00:32:09.960
I've got a party to get to. It's a very

625
00:32:09.960 --> 00:32:12.880
important party, I think.

626
00:32:12.920 --> 00:32:14.319
Yes, it's a Star Wars party.

627
00:32:14.680 --> 00:32:17.359
I think.

628
00:32:17.519 --> 00:32:20.920
My opinion on it is that when in my brain

629
00:32:21.000 --> 00:32:23.920
when I think of the original series, this is the

630
00:32:24.000 --> 00:32:25.119
episode I think of.

631
00:32:25.880 --> 00:32:28.039
That's a great call, do you know what I mean?

632
00:32:28.079 --> 00:32:30.519
Where I'm just like, I know, it's exactly pretty much

633
00:32:30.599 --> 00:32:33.440
what they all are, you know, at least from my

634
00:32:34.440 --> 00:32:39.279
limited viewing of them, where I'm like, you know, they

635
00:32:39.359 --> 00:32:42.319
land somewhere, people are weird, and then they're one of

636
00:32:42.359 --> 00:32:44.960
them kisses somebody and they leave. Like that's pretty much

637
00:32:45.000 --> 00:32:47.720
how you sum up a lot of those episodes. It

638
00:32:47.759 --> 00:32:50.440
wasn't bad by any means, but it did not change

639
00:32:50.480 --> 00:32:53.319
my life and it did not make me want to

640
00:32:53.319 --> 00:32:54.880
watch more of them afterwards.

641
00:32:55.400 --> 00:32:57.880
You know, how much Original series have you seen?

642
00:32:58.359 --> 00:33:01.440
I've seen a handful of Season one because I have

643
00:33:01.519 --> 00:33:04.279
the Blu ray for Season one, because I believe during Lockdown,

644
00:33:04.319 --> 00:33:07.039
I was like, I'm gonna watch this. Now's the time.

645
00:33:07.119 --> 00:33:09.119
Paramount Plus isn't out yet, you know what I mean?

646
00:33:09.160 --> 00:33:11.920
Like that kind of thing or maybe it was out

647
00:33:11.920 --> 00:33:16.680
but whatever. Uh, and I it was. It might not

648
00:33:16.720 --> 00:33:18.680
be Yeah, no it was, it was.

649
00:33:18.720 --> 00:33:19.400
Don't worry about it.

650
00:33:19.920 --> 00:33:22.799
I got through maybe disc one. I watched like four

651
00:33:22.839 --> 00:33:24.759
to five, and then I've seen some of the big

652
00:33:24.799 --> 00:33:30.359
ones throughout and I've seen the films. Yeah yeah, and

653
00:33:30.519 --> 00:33:32.400
you know, I've caught stuff on TV and whatever, but

654
00:33:32.519 --> 00:33:36.000
nothing nothing crazy.

655
00:33:36.160 --> 00:33:39.279
It's interesting that you've seen just like a handful of

656
00:33:39.319 --> 00:33:43.359
episodes and still clocked this as clear amalgamation of a

657
00:33:43.400 --> 00:33:44.680
billion different episodes.

658
00:33:44.920 --> 00:33:49.799
Yeah, because that's where kind of where we are in

659
00:33:50.079 --> 00:33:56.519
the production because really NBC is like, we have to

660
00:33:56.559 --> 00:33:59.240
bring the show back because we've gotten more fan mail

661
00:33:59.279 --> 00:34:02.759
than we have ever, but we hate Geene Roddenberry and

662
00:34:02.799 --> 00:34:05.160
so we're going to bring it back the least amount

663
00:34:05.480 --> 00:34:09.360
that we can. And so they are really just on

664
00:34:10.320 --> 00:34:13.199
the backs of the production team. Geene rodden Berry is

665
00:34:13.199 --> 00:34:16.440
basically checked out by this point, and there are new

666
00:34:16.440 --> 00:34:20.480
showrunners that are like, we kind of get what Star

667
00:34:20.559 --> 00:34:24.320
Trek is, but really we want to play good politics

668
00:34:24.599 --> 00:34:28.679
with the network and just get this stuff done. And

669
00:34:28.719 --> 00:34:31.000
so some of this stuff has been commissioned. This is

670
00:34:31.719 --> 00:34:34.280
this is one of the new guys that have been

671
00:34:34.280 --> 00:34:37.599
commissioned and they're trying to figure out Star Trek and

672
00:34:37.639 --> 00:34:42.000
this is what you get. So my question for you.

673
00:34:42.519 --> 00:34:50.519
Kenny, Yes, a good question. By the time this season ends,

674
00:34:51.440 --> 00:34:55.480
are you personally do you understand why they canceled the show?

675
00:34:57.280 --> 00:34:59.440
Oh? Yeah, from both from.

676
00:34:59.280 --> 00:35:03.119
A creative standpoint and from a production standpoint, Like creatively,

677
00:35:03.199 --> 00:35:05.239
are you like, yeah, I would have canceled this too.

678
00:35:06.039 --> 00:35:07.639
Oh my, oh my gosh.

679
00:35:07.559 --> 00:35:11.119
Okay, I don't know what your your tos feelings are.

680
00:35:11.800 --> 00:35:12.119
You know.

681
00:35:15.599 --> 00:35:20.000
You've seen the movies. Yes, those movies are way better

682
00:35:20.039 --> 00:35:21.400
than what Star Trek deserved.

683
00:35:21.840 --> 00:35:24.719
Sure, sure, Star Trek two it is.

684
00:35:24.960 --> 00:35:28.280
I adore Star Trek and also Star Trek two is

685
00:35:28.320 --> 00:35:32.039
an honest to god masterpiece of science fiction entertainment that

686
00:35:32.199 --> 00:35:37.360
is also a pontification on aging. It is a subversion

687
00:35:37.599 --> 00:35:42.840
of just heroic tropes. Yeah, and treats the Star Trek

688
00:35:42.880 --> 00:35:52.280
canon emotionally seriously without being like completely grim dark. Yeah,

689
00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:56.480
because even though there's some Star dark stuff, it's fun

690
00:35:56.480 --> 00:35:57.519
and jovial.

691
00:35:58.199 --> 00:36:06.280
The authoritarian like policies of Starfleet, the approach interesting complex stuff.

692
00:36:06.559 --> 00:36:10.320
Yeah. But you're Patrick's devastating take that this feels like

693
00:36:10.360 --> 00:36:14.480
all Star Trek episodes. It's kind of right, especially with

694
00:36:14.559 --> 00:36:18.639
season three. In the episode that we just last recorded,

695
00:36:20.440 --> 00:36:24.239
there's a whole bunch of tropes that these episodes have

696
00:36:24.440 --> 00:36:27.679
already been, like the tropes that are featured in this episode,

697
00:36:28.079 --> 00:36:30.320
they have already kind of been dealt with. The original

698
00:36:30.360 --> 00:36:35.039
idea here is that it's a it's a it's a

699
00:36:35.360 --> 00:36:40.239
world ship. Yeah, that's kind of new. I'll go to

700
00:36:40.559 --> 00:36:43.360
These are the voyages tos season three from Mark Cushman

701
00:36:43.400 --> 00:36:48.039
and Susan Osmoren my reference text here we go. It

702
00:36:48.079 --> 00:36:50.639
was now McCoy's turn to die, not only for romance,

703
00:36:51.079 --> 00:36:54.480
but to almost die. Our almost dyingly character's list has

704
00:36:54.559 --> 00:36:57.000
quite a history. Spock almost died in the Apple in

705
00:36:57.039 --> 00:36:59.199
a private little war Kirk, and that's only in web

706
00:36:59.320 --> 00:37:02.199
Scotty did die at the change Link check off Inspector

707
00:37:02.199 --> 00:37:04.519
of the Gun, which is this season. Kirk and mock

708
00:37:04.559 --> 00:37:07.199
Teim returned it tomorrow the Enterprise incident, and McCoy died

709
00:37:07.239 --> 00:37:11.760
once before two and surely, and not only that, we

710
00:37:11.880 --> 00:37:17.440
are recycling effects from the Paradise syndrome. It's the exact

711
00:37:17.519 --> 00:37:24.719
same asteroid both of them featured prominently. Uh and then

712
00:37:25.960 --> 00:37:29.559
Spock showed unexpected but understandable compassion for McCoy once before.

713
00:37:29.719 --> 00:37:33.039
Very recently the EmPATH, an episode that we will cover aspen.

714
00:37:33.360 --> 00:37:39.199
So we're recycling tropes, sure, yeah, yeah. Can I ask

715
00:37:39.239 --> 00:37:42.679
a nerdy question, what if we just said no? What

716
00:37:42.719 --> 00:37:44.480
if we were just like they said?

717
00:37:44.519 --> 00:37:48.679
They said they recycled the asteroid? Uh, you know from

718
00:37:48.719 --> 00:37:52.000
another episode when they redid the graphics for the blu ray.

719
00:37:52.119 --> 00:37:55.719
Did they change that special effect or is it still

720
00:37:55.760 --> 00:37:56.480
the same? One?

721
00:37:56.960 --> 00:38:01.239
Excellent question. Thank you. I have no good on you

722
00:38:01.320 --> 00:38:04.639
for knowing that there's a remastered version of my Star Trek.

723
00:38:04.679 --> 00:38:06.719
I know my stuff, even if I don't care about it.

724
00:38:06.760 --> 00:38:10.679
I know my stuff like it's because it's fun to know,

725
00:38:10.760 --> 00:38:12.960
Like the meta textual stuff in the meta narrative is

726
00:38:12.960 --> 00:38:16.599
about Star Trek because it's fascinating. And Jean Roddenberry is

727
00:38:16.599 --> 00:38:19.400
many things. One of the great things about him is

728
00:38:19.400 --> 00:38:21.639
that he's a hell of a marketer. He's a real P. T.

729
00:38:21.800 --> 00:38:23.920
Barnum in the way that George Lucas is the same

730
00:38:24.000 --> 00:38:28.199
kind of pathologizer. So too was Gene Roddenberry, if not

731
00:38:28.400 --> 00:38:30.719
just a little bit more so because George Lucas wasn't

732
00:38:30.719 --> 00:38:34.920
making the circuits in the circuit of colleges giving speeches

733
00:38:34.920 --> 00:38:37.679
in order to pay the bills. Geene Roddenberry certainly was

734
00:38:37.840 --> 00:38:39.079
for the world is hollow.

735
00:38:39.599 --> 00:38:43.320
I'm just very happy that I clocked that that my

736
00:38:43.480 --> 00:38:46.599
feeling was valid, you know, of like, oh, this is

737
00:38:46.840 --> 00:38:49.639
the same thing. I'm happy that you guys didn't go no, no, no,

738
00:38:49.679 --> 00:38:52.440
This one is so different from me, you know, Like truly,

739
00:38:52.519 --> 00:38:54.360
I was very nervous that that was going to be

740
00:38:54.400 --> 00:38:55.119
the outcome of this.

741
00:38:55.480 --> 00:39:01.079
No, there's literally an episode that happens this season and

742
00:39:01.320 --> 00:39:03.199
Kenny's got a note off the top of his head.

743
00:39:03.519 --> 00:39:09.039
But it's it's effectively the same thing. They accept with

744
00:39:09.280 --> 00:39:15.920
a weird bastardization of indigenous people's traditions. Which you said

745
00:39:15.960 --> 00:39:17.559
that you said it's paradise forgot, it's that.

746
00:39:17.639 --> 00:39:20.400
I mean they literally used the same asteroid.

747
00:39:20.519 --> 00:39:22.559
Yeah, oh that's right. But not only do they use

748
00:39:22.599 --> 00:39:26.239
the same asteroid, it is the same concept, Like it

749
00:39:26.320 --> 00:39:29.760
is ultimately it's like Kirk ends up falling in love

750
00:39:29.800 --> 00:39:33.000
with this priestess is like, it's it's the same kind

751
00:39:33.000 --> 00:39:34.960
of thing. It's a computer piece, but in that one

752
00:39:35.360 --> 00:39:38.119
she dies, he also like loses the memory. It's a

753
00:39:38.119 --> 00:39:41.559
whole of course, but very similar vibes.

754
00:39:42.239 --> 00:39:45.280
To answer your question, the asteroid was also redone. Now

755
00:39:45.320 --> 00:39:49.280
it designed vastly different from that scene in the other episode.

756
00:39:49.360 --> 00:39:52.840
Thank you Memory Alpha Alpha.

757
00:39:52.920 --> 00:39:56.199
Also, Kenny, what's that one? That wild one where it

758
00:39:56.280 --> 00:39:58.480
was like there's all the guy like all the men

759
00:39:58.559 --> 00:40:00.719
were on the top, like on the surface of the planet,

760
00:40:00.760 --> 00:40:01.800
all the women were below.

761
00:40:03.079 --> 00:40:05.000
Also Stocks Brain, Spocks Brain.

762
00:40:05.199 --> 00:40:10.719
Oh god, hated that, but I think I just like

763
00:40:10.840 --> 00:40:11.760
black hold it.

764
00:40:11.920 --> 00:40:15.519
Oh shit. The third season is notoriously rough, even among

765
00:40:15.639 --> 00:40:16.400
Star Trek fans.

766
00:40:17.360 --> 00:40:20.920
Also, a lot of cast is not in this episode.

767
00:40:21.679 --> 00:40:25.480
That's also the thing, Patrick, Yeah, most I think the

768
00:40:25.599 --> 00:40:29.559
common conception is that it's kind of you have your

769
00:40:29.880 --> 00:40:35.199
to lose your checks. Not dude, No, it's always Kirk,

770
00:40:35.239 --> 00:40:37.519
Spock and McCoy being able to go down on the planet.

771
00:40:37.559 --> 00:40:40.440
It's not an ensemble show, which is why Next Generation

772
00:40:41.119 --> 00:40:43.760
deciding to be like, no, it's not about Picard, it's

773
00:40:43.760 --> 00:40:47.039
an ensemble show. Yeah, genius.

774
00:40:48.440 --> 00:40:52.360
Yeah, it's I think it speaks to the fact that

775
00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:55.639
it's like that you could you can feel a sort

776
00:40:55.679 --> 00:40:59.599
of staleness, do the thing, sure and like it just yeah,

777
00:40:59.679 --> 00:41:02.880
not to just like slag it off so profoundly but

778
00:41:02.880 --> 00:41:05.280
at this point it is it is kind of interesting too.

779
00:41:05.960 --> 00:41:10.559
Like I will say, going through this, I've realized how

780
00:41:10.639 --> 00:41:13.920
much more I like Star Trek And yeah, it's still

781
00:41:14.039 --> 00:41:15.760
like a what are we doing kind of time.

782
00:41:17.639 --> 00:41:19.840
I guess that's good though. That's good that you've realized

783
00:41:19.840 --> 00:41:20.400
you liked it.

784
00:41:21.280 --> 00:41:23.440
Oh yeah, and I used to watch I used to

785
00:41:23.519 --> 00:41:26.760
watch Star Trek tos with friends. I kind of you know,

786
00:41:26.760 --> 00:41:28.400
we'd always get around, but it would always be those

787
00:41:28.400 --> 00:41:31.840
select episodes that were just like the killer episode, sure

788
00:41:32.639 --> 00:41:35.960
age forever they like, you know, all these mostly season

789
00:41:35.960 --> 00:41:38.960
one or touch of season two. I don't think i'd

790
00:41:38.960 --> 00:41:41.800
ever watched any Season three before we started talking about it,

791
00:41:41.840 --> 00:41:43.079
and I, well.

792
00:41:42.920 --> 00:41:44.599
Good news, you have so many more to go.

793
00:41:45.639 --> 00:41:49.679
Oh boy, things, things, bro. I'm really excited to perhas

794
00:41:50.440 --> 00:41:53.559
made it serious too, and we're doing the animation amazing.

795
00:41:54.599 --> 00:41:58.480
How many do you have a spreadsheet of every single

796
00:41:58.639 --> 00:42:00.599
Star Trek episode in every single hours?

797
00:42:00.639 --> 00:42:02.760
Like where? How number wise? Where do we?

798
00:42:02.840 --> 00:42:03.559
Where do we land?

799
00:42:04.159 --> 00:42:04.519
Yes?

800
00:42:05.280 --> 00:42:08.159
Oh, when we started this, I did the math and

801
00:42:08.199 --> 00:42:11.039
I was like, if we continued this, like we'd be

802
00:42:11.119 --> 00:42:12.679
doing this for sixteen years.

803
00:42:12.760 --> 00:42:15.119
Yeah, well, it has to be so many more Star

804
00:42:15.159 --> 00:42:16.039
Trek right.

805
00:42:16.039 --> 00:42:20.440
I need to up. I need to up so much drastically.

806
00:42:20.559 --> 00:42:26.760
Although if we oh boy, yeah, I gotta I gotta

807
00:42:26.760 --> 00:42:29.199
work on the on the spreadsheet. Here we go. I

808
00:42:29.199 --> 00:42:31.880
can't tell you what the shorts and the legos, but

809
00:42:32.400 --> 00:42:35.639
if we're not covering legos and shorts, which I'm so

810
00:42:35.679 --> 00:42:36.679
mad at, Aspen.

811
00:42:36.480 --> 00:42:38.199
Yeah, I think that might change. But I think you're

812
00:42:38.199 --> 00:42:38.719
gonna have to fire.

813
00:42:38.760 --> 00:42:41.559
And I still have to update things and include things,

814
00:42:41.599 --> 00:42:44.480
because you know, I've got a day job. But right now,

815
00:42:45.599 --> 00:42:50.000
as the spreadsheet stands, not including new episodes of Prodigy

816
00:42:50.039 --> 00:42:52.400
and not including new episodes of The Acolyte and other

817
00:42:52.440 --> 00:42:54.559
Star Wars things, it's nine hundred and three versus four

818
00:42:54.639 --> 00:42:57.480
hundred and seventy nine hundred and three Star Trek four

819
00:42:57.559 --> 00:42:59.079
hundreds and seventy Star Wars for.

820
00:42:59.239 --> 00:43:01.360
Seventies a lot. Though, that's like more than I thought

821
00:43:01.400 --> 00:43:03.039
it would be exactly.

822
00:43:04.119 --> 00:43:08.159
Oh yeah, yeah, so we are required to say friends

823
00:43:08.159 --> 00:43:09.119
for a long time.

824
00:43:09.800 --> 00:43:15.199
H this is exactly that you moved away from Austin

825
00:43:15.519 --> 00:43:17.599
and we're going to make a clean break. No, I

826
00:43:17.639 --> 00:43:20.519
have my tendrils sunk into you.

827
00:43:23.239 --> 00:43:24.800
Yeah, so okay.

828
00:43:25.320 --> 00:43:27.639
Also, it's way more fun to just be like like

829
00:43:28.119 --> 00:43:30.719
critical about the stuff that we love, because of course

830
00:43:30.800 --> 00:43:33.960
it's also interesting to I mean, you could speak to this.

831
00:43:34.119 --> 00:43:38.760
It's part of the wild show slash experiment that is

832
00:43:38.800 --> 00:43:41.519
the George Lucas talk show and talking about the vanity

833
00:43:41.599 --> 00:43:46.239
that is involved with just both of these properties, ron

834
00:43:46.320 --> 00:43:50.880
Berry being a showman and Lucas being extremely quiet theoretically

835
00:43:50.880 --> 00:43:52.920
but also being a showman in terms of how he's

836
00:43:52.920 --> 00:43:55.320
mythologizing his own narrative.

837
00:43:55.400 --> 00:43:57.159
Yeah, Patrick, how would you think? How would you say

838
00:43:57.199 --> 00:44:02.239
your own showmanship and your own uh desire for fame

839
00:44:02.519 --> 00:44:04.079
reflects what you see?

840
00:44:04.599 --> 00:44:08.920
Yeah? Do you see yourself in this episode of Star Trek?

841
00:44:09.400 --> 00:44:09.599
Oh?

842
00:44:09.679 --> 00:44:11.400
Do I see myself in this episode of Star Trek?

843
00:44:11.480 --> 00:44:11.960
Great question.

844
00:44:12.039 --> 00:44:21.679
I'm gonna step over Aspen's part of the question, and uh.

845
00:44:18.880 --> 00:44:21.000
Do I see myself? No? I don't think so. Maybe

846
00:44:21.039 --> 00:44:22.519
in bombab Jedi a little bit.

847
00:44:23.119 --> 00:44:25.239
I like to think I'm like that big slug boy,

848
00:44:25.840 --> 00:44:27.960
you know, popping in to save the day.

849
00:44:28.159 --> 00:44:29.840
You know, we'll say that I don't.

850
00:44:29.639 --> 00:44:34.239
Need to talk about him yet, but we're gonna Kenny

851
00:44:34.559 --> 00:44:36.480
h Yeah, go ahead.

852
00:44:36.239 --> 00:44:38.920
I'm gonna because I feel like we're just about to

853
00:44:39.199 --> 00:44:42.159
pop over to bomb Bad Jedi. But I gotta drop. Yeah,

854
00:44:42.199 --> 00:44:46.639
I gotta drop this piece of information that is going

855
00:44:46.679 --> 00:44:51.199
to infuriate Aspen because I love to make Aspen mad.

856
00:44:51.559 --> 00:44:53.760
Here we go. You want to grab onto something Aspen.

857
00:44:55.159 --> 00:44:55.639
Yourself?

858
00:44:55.800 --> 00:44:59.480
I guess, Here we go. Once again, going back to

859
00:44:59.519 --> 00:45:01.800
the text, these are the voyages tos season three of

860
00:45:01.800 --> 00:45:08.440
from Mark Cushman Susan Osborne. Fred Freiberger recalled Fred Freiberger again,

861
00:45:08.480 --> 00:45:11.880
being the showrunner of Star Trek the original series season three,

862
00:45:13.679 --> 00:45:15.920
I received a visit from the head of network research,

863
00:45:15.960 --> 00:45:17.679
and he said to me he was there too, quote

864
00:45:17.719 --> 00:45:20.480
unquote help me, that he had done a lot of research.

865
00:45:20.599 --> 00:45:23.199
And I said, well, how do you help me boost

866
00:45:23.239 --> 00:45:25.519
the ratings? I'm sure He said that very tiredly and

867
00:45:25.639 --> 00:45:27.039
was like, I don't want to work on Star Trek.

868
00:45:27.159 --> 00:45:29.119
This is the hardest show that anyone has ever made,

869
00:45:30.320 --> 00:45:32.639
the network person said, And he said, the only way

870
00:45:32.760 --> 00:45:34.760
he could see to do it was to broaden our

871
00:45:34.840 --> 00:45:39.960
base of women viewers. We had some very loyal women viewers,

872
00:45:39.960 --> 00:45:42.599
but the great majority of women, according to his research,

873
00:45:42.679 --> 00:45:50.039
were terrified of the thought of space. They needed parameters,

874
00:45:50.239 --> 00:45:53.280
in other words, an ordinary, regular, everyday TV. If you're

875
00:45:53.280 --> 00:45:55.320
going to do a story about a woman asked me,

876
00:45:55.400 --> 00:45:59.239
grab onto something. Don't do it on a mountaintop, do

877
00:45:59.360 --> 00:46:02.079
it in a valley. The only thing I would hope

878
00:46:02.119 --> 00:46:04.199
to do different would be to do more love stories.

879
00:46:05.360 --> 00:46:09.760
What then, rodden Berry had already set this change in motion.

880
00:46:09.960 --> 00:46:12.559
Elana trous had been a love story episode that we'll

881
00:46:12.559 --> 00:46:18.480
get too, as was the Paradise Syndrome. Supervising producer found

882
00:46:18.599 --> 00:46:21.119
is There in Truth No Beauty, which was a relationship story.

883
00:46:21.280 --> 00:46:24.440
Other themes that women could easily identify with were found

884
00:46:24.440 --> 00:46:27.840
in And the Children Shall Lead involving Children in Danger

885
00:46:29.039 --> 00:46:33.039
with scripts by Dorothy Fontana, Margaret armand Jean Zette Arrest,

886
00:46:33.440 --> 00:46:36.360
Joyce Muscat and Julie Burns. Star Trek was now using

887
00:46:36.360 --> 00:46:38.119
more women on a creative level. In the mood of

888
00:46:38.119 --> 00:46:41.039
those episodes, Brian Berger felt was certainly in line with

889
00:46:41.079 --> 00:46:44.000
what the theoretical average woman wanted to see a television

890
00:46:45.280 --> 00:46:46.920
ask when you feel chilling normal about that?

891
00:46:47.679 --> 00:46:51.320
I literally the thoughts that are coming up are like

892
00:46:51.519 --> 00:46:54.679
what were the variables and the way that they collected

893
00:46:54.719 --> 00:46:59.159
the information, Like I'm just curious from a reprospective of

894
00:46:59.199 --> 00:47:02.199
how they did the surveying, Like do they bring in

895
00:47:02.280 --> 00:47:04.320
a focus group, and it was just like people they.

896
00:47:04.239 --> 00:47:07.880
Know there, they asked their husbands, Yeah.

897
00:47:08.039 --> 00:47:10.880
Right, they asked their husbands what their wives thought about

898
00:47:11.159 --> 00:47:13.400
Star Trek in Space as a concept.

899
00:47:13.719 --> 00:47:21.840
Well, my wife is scared of mountains, loves balles. I don't.

900
00:47:22.679 --> 00:47:26.360
I just what's wild is? It sounds so much like

901
00:47:26.440 --> 00:47:28.760
when they talk about I was just I was just

902
00:47:28.800 --> 00:47:31.079
I just saw a TikTok that was all about like,

903
00:47:31.199 --> 00:47:34.079
oh more women are into Star Wars now because of

904
00:47:34.119 --> 00:47:36.920
the Acolyte, because of many just seem to and I

905
00:47:37.000 --> 00:47:40.639
was and I'm like, no, well, one man is just

906
00:47:40.639 --> 00:47:44.199
a hotty little web boy. So I understand people you

907
00:47:44.239 --> 00:47:48.000
know who are into men or even aren't to manage

908
00:47:48.039 --> 00:47:50.840
to see them. And at the same time, there have

909
00:47:50.960 --> 00:47:53.599
always been women and fen people who are Star Wars

910
00:47:53.599 --> 00:47:56.039
fans all along. They're all going to see these films.

911
00:47:56.079 --> 00:47:59.760
They're all women go to see, uh, superhero films, women

912
00:47:59.840 --> 00:48:05.159
love of horror films. Turns out that women cumans that

913
00:48:05.320 --> 00:48:08.880
like brings out buried interests, So I am assuming that

914
00:48:09.000 --> 00:48:11.920
in nineteen sixty fucking eight it was the same.

915
00:48:12.480 --> 00:48:12.719
Sure.

916
00:48:13.000 --> 00:48:15.679
And also, I love a love story too, so.

917
00:48:17.280 --> 00:48:17.679
I love you.

918
00:48:17.719 --> 00:48:21.159
When McCoy gets to kiss that's.

919
00:48:20.960 --> 00:48:23.519
Not why I'm here. That's not why you're here.

920
00:48:23.719 --> 00:48:25.599
No, No, I'm here because Kenny made me watch this.

921
00:48:28.159 --> 00:48:30.079
Well, this is the only episode that I forced you

922
00:48:30.119 --> 00:48:30.519
to watch.

923
00:48:31.920 --> 00:48:35.760
I just googled I live near Bronson Canyon in LA.

924
00:48:35.920 --> 00:48:38.320
This is not yea, I guess kind of dossing myself,

925
00:48:38.480 --> 00:48:40.320
and I was like, I can't feel like they shot

926
00:48:40.480 --> 00:48:43.679
some Star Trek there. And there's almost an entire Wikipedia

927
00:48:43.719 --> 00:48:46.360
page on all of the Star Trek that was shot

928
00:48:46.400 --> 00:48:47.119
in this canyon.

929
00:48:47.639 --> 00:48:49.599
Literally, just told by partner the other day. I was like,

930
00:48:50.280 --> 00:48:51.880
I was like, we have to go to Bronson Caves.

931
00:48:51.880 --> 00:48:53.119
They've shot so much shit there.

932
00:48:52.960 --> 00:48:53.400
And it's right.

933
00:48:53.440 --> 00:48:55.360
I mean, it's hop right over to it.

934
00:48:55.360 --> 00:48:58.599
It's the bat Cave from Adam West. But it's also

935
00:48:58.760 --> 00:49:00.719
the cave from the end of Army of Darkness, which

936
00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:03.719
is what I'm excited about. And that's like so much,

937
00:49:04.000 --> 00:49:06.960
so much Star Trek too, which is great.

938
00:49:07.440 --> 00:49:10.320
Star Wars fans are freaks, to be sure. Star Wars

939
00:49:10.320 --> 00:49:13.960
fans are freaks. Yeah, I don't know where, but Star

940
00:49:14.000 --> 00:49:17.199
Trek fans are such freaks where they are just like,

941
00:49:17.400 --> 00:49:21.199
here's the address of everywhere that they shocked. Also, I'm

942
00:49:21.199 --> 00:49:24.960
going to build a replica bridge. There are Patrick, there

943
00:49:25.000 --> 00:49:29.679
are three replica t O S bridges within the United States.

944
00:49:29.800 --> 00:49:34.920
I didn't know. That's crazy. Three three, one, not one.

945
00:49:35.360 --> 00:49:38.920
There are three replica bridges that you can just go

946
00:49:39.000 --> 00:49:42.199
to Star Trek fans and then not only that, there's

947
00:49:42.239 --> 00:49:45.760
the full set recreation up in Fort Teiconderoga. Yes, yes, yes,

948
00:49:46.440 --> 00:49:50.199
freaks first. Star Trek fans are freaks. I appreciate.

949
00:49:52.239 --> 00:49:53.159
The episode title.

950
00:49:55.320 --> 00:49:57.840
Yeah, I think that'll be good. I think that'll be good. CEO.

951
00:49:58.239 --> 00:50:00.480
Also, while we're talking about it, Yeah, while we're talking

952
00:50:00.480 --> 00:50:04.840
about it, Baske has rocks. Also location, I did go

953
00:50:04.920 --> 00:50:08.559
out there and dress and Star Trek amazing and did

954
00:50:08.639 --> 00:50:11.280
a little photo shoot amazing. I might be a Star

955
00:50:11.280 --> 00:50:12.840
Wars person, but I am a Star Trek freak.

956
00:50:13.199 --> 00:50:15.920
Yeah, as well, you're a freak. That's okay.

957
00:50:16.039 --> 00:50:18.599
We'll just make sure we say just you know, we'll

958
00:50:18.639 --> 00:50:20.639
just embrace who we are Star Wars.

959
00:50:20.719 --> 00:50:24.719
Star Wars fans are a different kind of freak. Yeah, oh,

960
00:50:25.880 --> 00:50:26.639
Star Trek fans.

961
00:50:26.880 --> 00:50:31.480
Star Trek fans can be mean, Yes, but I feel

962
00:50:31.559 --> 00:50:34.440
like it's built into the material just a little bit

963
00:50:34.480 --> 00:50:39.880
more of liberalism, some sort of liberalism, even though it

964
00:50:39.960 --> 00:50:43.519
is still a power fantasy that is glorifying a military thing.

965
00:50:43.559 --> 00:50:48.559
It's the weird paradox of being a trekking. No, we

966
00:50:48.719 --> 00:50:49.360
said that.

967
00:50:49.400 --> 00:50:52.760
Sounds like we gotta get to the real good, which

968
00:50:52.800 --> 00:50:58.119
is our Bombbaed Jedi. Feel just been like sitting here, waiting.

969
00:50:58.000 --> 00:50:59.599
Waiting, trying to get through.

970
00:50:59.440 --> 00:51:02.039
It, just like Star Trek Star Tuk.

971
00:51:06.119 --> 00:51:10.320
I hope it's just a blank page. I hope you're

972
00:51:10.360 --> 00:51:12.119
just like there, I have no notes.

973
00:51:12.519 --> 00:51:13.840
Just says Race as I'm on it.

974
00:51:16.519 --> 00:51:16.920
Okay.

975
00:51:17.159 --> 00:51:19.679
While he's doing that, while he's looking Patrick, tell us

976
00:51:19.719 --> 00:51:21.719
your feelings, tell us why? What? What are you?

977
00:51:21.760 --> 00:51:22.280
What are you doing?

978
00:51:22.320 --> 00:51:23.199
How are you feeling about this?

979
00:51:23.639 --> 00:51:25.760
About Bombed Jedi specifically, Yes.

980
00:51:25.559 --> 00:51:27.119
About Bombay Jedi specifically.

981
00:51:27.239 --> 00:51:27.440
Yeah.

982
00:51:27.559 --> 00:51:31.079
I mean, look, I'm a big phantom menace boy. Uh

983
00:51:31.119 --> 00:51:34.199
So I think I like this episode for that reason.

984
00:51:34.840 --> 00:51:37.239
I do think this show does a good job with

985
00:51:37.559 --> 00:51:42.039
jar Jar, especially in the Ahmed episodes of jar Jar

986
00:51:42.360 --> 00:51:44.880
versus the b J Hughes episodes of jar Jar. I

987
00:51:44.880 --> 00:51:48.519
think having Ahmed there helps improve that character a lot.

988
00:51:49.840 --> 00:51:52.960
Jar chars, Yeah, so they not bring Ahmed pass back.

989
00:51:53.079 --> 00:51:55.239
He didn't want to do it all the time.

990
00:51:55.280 --> 00:51:55.880
That makes sense.

991
00:51:56.719 --> 00:52:00.199
So there's someone credited as BJ Hughes, which I think

992
00:52:00.239 --> 00:52:02.199
his public knowledge at this point that it was Phil Lamar,

993
00:52:02.360 --> 00:52:05.880
and he does a totally admirable job, you know, trying

994
00:52:05.880 --> 00:52:08.519
to do it, but it's not Ahmed, and it's it's

995
00:52:08.519 --> 00:52:12.159
definitely different. And I love Phil Lamar, you know, but

996
00:52:12.280 --> 00:52:14.519
you're definitely like, well, this isn't Charger, this is another

997
00:52:14.599 --> 00:52:17.320
Gungan Like That's sort of my feelings on those episodes.

998
00:52:18.440 --> 00:52:21.000
But I do wish there were more charged our Clone

999
00:52:21.039 --> 00:52:24.519
Wars episodes because big fan, I don't know.

1000
00:52:24.599 --> 00:52:25.239
I think it's fun.

1001
00:52:25.320 --> 00:52:27.880
I watched it last night with my girlfriend, who had

1002
00:52:27.920 --> 00:52:30.960
never seen this and she's only recently watched a few

1003
00:52:31.039 --> 00:52:32.199
Clone Stars episodes.

1004
00:52:32.320 --> 00:52:37.320
Who you girlfriend? Oh wow? Oh interesting? Who did you

1005
00:52:37.360 --> 00:52:39.840
watch it with? In my girlfriend?

1006
00:52:48.480 --> 00:52:49.280
About when people?

1007
00:52:49.880 --> 00:52:52.360
Is this recurring partner a recurring thing?

1008
00:52:54.079 --> 00:52:58.440
Also only with that, Yeah, don't you have a girlfriend, Kenny?

1009
00:52:58.800 --> 00:53:00.159
I have a girlfriend. That's true.

1010
00:53:03.599 --> 00:53:05.119
Kenny just wants people to be happy.

1011
00:53:05.280 --> 00:53:08.880
I get it, And that's great, that's great.

1012
00:53:08.920 --> 00:53:09.320
Thank you.

1013
00:53:10.079 --> 00:53:11.599
You also want people to be happy.

1014
00:53:11.960 --> 00:53:13.400
I also want people. That's good.

1015
00:53:14.239 --> 00:53:18.239
Like what specifically, asking like what people would you want

1016
00:53:18.280 --> 00:53:21.119
to be happy? Like? Maybe like that live with you

1017
00:53:21.880 --> 00:53:24.519
like any person that lives with you. That my partner,

1018
00:53:24.599 --> 00:53:26.800
my partner, Joel, my part There we got all three,

1019
00:53:27.119 --> 00:53:28.920
I got all three. There we go.

1020
00:53:35.159 --> 00:53:38.800
This isn't all my best episode? Yeah, and you were

1021
00:53:38.840 --> 00:53:40.000
watching it with your girlfriend?

1022
00:53:40.119 --> 00:53:41.000
Yeah, we were.

1023
00:53:40.880 --> 00:53:44.199
Watching watching it and she's only seen a couple. The

1024
00:53:44.199 --> 00:53:50.039
first ones she watched were the Savage Finding Darth Maul episodes,

1025
00:53:50.400 --> 00:53:52.239
which is like such a crazy way to like get

1026
00:53:52.239 --> 00:53:55.679
introduced to this show. But I think I was watching

1027
00:53:55.679 --> 00:53:57.519
it for some reason. She just sat down and was like,

1028
00:53:57.639 --> 00:53:58.760
what's happening right now?

1029
00:53:58.800 --> 00:53:59.039
You know.

1030
00:53:59.360 --> 00:54:01.400
But it was interesting watching this one because I was like, oh,

1031
00:54:01.440 --> 00:54:04.719
it doesn't it looks so much worse than the later seasons.

1032
00:54:04.760 --> 00:54:07.679
Due, yes, yeah, that is just fascinating.

1033
00:54:08.719 --> 00:54:10.679
I mean it's you know, it's got the stylistic thing,

1034
00:54:10.719 --> 00:54:12.440
so it's like it's got its own thing. But like

1035
00:54:12.679 --> 00:54:16.559
it's just interesting watching the animation evolve over those years

1036
00:54:16.559 --> 00:54:18.360
and like get so much more detailed and so much

1037
00:54:18.480 --> 00:54:22.480
richer and nicer and prettier and stuff. You know. But

1038
00:54:22.559 --> 00:54:25.000
that was my big takeaway watching this last night, was like, oh,

1039
00:54:25.039 --> 00:54:27.519
it's kind of ugly, you know at this point.

1040
00:54:28.519 --> 00:54:29.199
It is wild.

1041
00:54:29.320 --> 00:54:34.039
Also going from seeing that season seven that came out totally,

1042
00:54:34.079 --> 00:54:41.559
and how it is genuinely beautiful. It's so fluid those fights.

1043
00:54:42.039 --> 00:54:45.960
Not to spoil it, Kenny, but like you soak them

1044
00:54:45.960 --> 00:54:47.480
all fights to kind.

1045
00:54:47.360 --> 00:54:51.679
Of what not to spoil it.

1046
00:54:51.840 --> 00:54:54.079
Oops, you're supposed to cover your ear.

1047
00:54:56.119 --> 00:55:00.440
Listen, how much of this show have you seen? None?

1048
00:55:00.639 --> 00:55:04.320
None of the Clone Wars. This is going through it. Well,

1049
00:55:04.840 --> 00:55:07.280
that's not that's not true. I had watched I I

1050
00:55:07.280 --> 00:55:10.519
told the movie on Blu Ray because whenever, whenever I'm

1051
00:55:10.559 --> 00:55:14.880
doing a like a complete rewatch, I'm like, you've got

1052
00:55:14.920 --> 00:55:16.840
to have the Clone Wars Blue Air because it was

1053
00:55:17.119 --> 00:55:21.840
in theaters. It counts. Yeah. Uh. And then I'd watched

1054
00:55:21.840 --> 00:55:24.000
a couple of the episodes, but every time I was

1055
00:55:24.039 --> 00:55:27.039
just like, this is bad. Okay, so this is really

1056
00:55:27.079 --> 00:55:30.360
hard to watch. And I give you my Clone Wars philosophy.

1057
00:55:30.559 --> 00:55:34.920
Take whatever what if? I no, No, I don't want it.

1058
00:55:35.000 --> 00:55:36.719
It's very kind of you to keep asking.

1059
00:55:36.920 --> 00:55:38.239
I just want to make sure. I just want to

1060
00:55:38.239 --> 00:55:38.639
make sure.

1061
00:55:38.880 --> 00:55:40.840
Yeah, we won't hear everything good.

1062
00:55:41.039 --> 00:55:45.480
Chunk of it is not great, especially early on, especially

1063
00:55:45.519 --> 00:55:48.920
the first like two to three seasons. You know, you

1064
00:55:48.960 --> 00:55:51.079
could probably skip half the episodes and you would not

1065
00:55:51.159 --> 00:55:53.280
lose that much. I do think there's a lot of

1066
00:55:53.360 --> 00:55:55.960
weird episodes in those seasons that I think are cool

1067
00:55:56.079 --> 00:55:58.639
and fun and like interesting.

1068
00:55:58.400 --> 00:55:58.639
You know.

1069
00:56:00.000 --> 00:56:02.440
But I think if you push through those seasons, which

1070
00:56:03.239 --> 00:56:06.440
great news you gotta for this, yeah, you get to

1071
00:56:06.480 --> 00:56:11.480
some really good stuff and that's exciting. By the end,

1072
00:56:11.760 --> 00:56:14.840
it's pretty much all killer, no filler.

1073
00:56:15.039 --> 00:56:19.159
You know. I'm excited because I really I watched all

1074
00:56:19.199 --> 00:56:21.239
of Rebels and I was like, cool, this is grant.

1075
00:56:21.400 --> 00:56:24.679
Yeah, Rebels is pretty fantastic.

1076
00:56:24.920 --> 00:56:25.239
Yeah.

1077
00:56:25.320 --> 00:56:28.480
The thing I like about Clone Wars is that they'll

1078
00:56:28.519 --> 00:56:31.360
just do an episode about freakin' Evan Peel, you know,

1079
00:56:31.440 --> 00:56:33.400
like the other little guy from the Jedi Council, and

1080
00:56:33.400 --> 00:56:35.480
you're just like, great, I didn't know we'd get a

1081
00:56:35.480 --> 00:56:38.000
story about this guy, and I wish they would go.

1082
00:56:38.079 --> 00:56:38.840
Back to that.

1083
00:56:39.079 --> 00:56:42.239
I wish I really liked the tales from the whatever

1084
00:56:42.519 --> 00:56:45.239
shows and I would love more of those. I'm like,

1085
00:56:45.440 --> 00:56:48.000
give us, give us a twenty episode season of that

1086
00:56:48.119 --> 00:56:50.400
where you're just like, here's this guy's deal, here's this

1087
00:56:50.440 --> 00:56:53.840
guy's deal. I don't need another like full story show.

1088
00:56:54.480 --> 00:56:56.320
It would be totally fine with me if we just

1089
00:56:56.320 --> 00:56:58.679
did anthology stuff from here on out, which I don't

1090
00:56:58.679 --> 00:57:01.840
know if they're gonna do, but because I would love it.

1091
00:57:02.480 --> 00:57:05.280
Mandalorian got close to that kind of style by being

1092
00:57:05.760 --> 00:57:10.599
by having self contained episodes, but then it got involved

1093
00:57:10.639 --> 00:57:13.719
with the mythology, and I think that really that really

1094
00:57:13.760 --> 00:57:16.719
hurt it. And also I think they're probably listening to

1095
00:57:16.760 --> 00:57:19.719
criticisms and being like like a side quest yeah, as

1096
00:57:19.719 --> 00:57:23.639
opposed to I'm over here being like this was TV. Yeah,

1097
00:57:23.719 --> 00:57:27.159
there's nine scenes into the mcg imer and they're all

1098
00:57:27.280 --> 00:57:30.960
just about like how he's gonna get out this fickle Yeah.

1099
00:57:31.000 --> 00:57:33.000
Well but you can even go back to I guess

1100
00:57:33.000 --> 00:57:35.159
what would be the mythology of it?

1101
00:57:35.440 --> 00:57:38.119
Did you like my make ivery reference? Yeah?

1102
00:57:38.360 --> 00:57:43.800
No, I like that used screened? No, No, you're funny,

1103
00:57:43.960 --> 00:57:49.199
you didn't nothing. Uh, you can still revisit. I think

1104
00:57:49.239 --> 00:57:51.159
you can still kind of come back to people like

1105
00:57:51.199 --> 00:57:53.559
like it was really rad to like be like what

1106
00:57:53.639 --> 00:57:57.519
did happen to Yattle? Like you know, I sometimes it

1107
00:57:57.519 --> 00:58:01.360
feels a touch masturbatory, like why it's his name Han solo?

1108
00:58:01.440 --> 00:58:02.599
Because he has so how many people?

1109
00:58:02.719 --> 00:58:03.159
Yes?

1110
00:58:03.239 --> 00:58:06.239
Yes, but the idea of let's actually explore a yat

1111
00:58:06.199 --> 00:58:08.480
a'll kind of storyline of where she.

1112
00:58:08.559 --> 00:58:10.960
Is interesting interesting doesn't have to It.

1113
00:58:10.960 --> 00:58:14.079
Could be it's tangentially related, or really it's about this

1114
00:58:14.159 --> 00:58:17.199
person or this this character that that is interesting and

1115
00:58:17.360 --> 00:58:19.199
we give a shit about you know, we could always

1116
00:58:19.239 --> 00:58:20.559
pop into those. I'm totally with you.

1117
00:58:20.920 --> 00:58:22.880
Some of my favorite I go wait and out on

1118
00:58:22.920 --> 00:58:24.519
the books. I don't read all the books, but some

1119
00:58:24.559 --> 00:58:26.559
of the books that I really like are the from

1120
00:58:26.599 --> 00:58:29.360
a certain point of view books. And I'm like, if

1121
00:58:29.480 --> 00:58:33.039
if we just got a show of you know, here's

1122
00:58:33.079 --> 00:58:35.840
this one weird side character, like here's just a random

1123
00:58:35.840 --> 00:58:39.280
stormtrooper we're following, Yeah, here's this whatever. That stuff is

1124
00:58:39.320 --> 00:58:42.960
interesting to me, and or even you know, do a

1125
00:58:43.000 --> 00:58:46.840
new character that's just like, this guy's a freaking you know, uh,

1126
00:58:48.159 --> 00:58:50.639
the guy who sets up the WiFi in the offices,

1127
00:58:50.719 --> 00:58:52.719
like whatever, But you know what I mean, just like

1128
00:58:52.760 --> 00:58:55.679
a random guy, what's his thing? You could do that

1129
00:58:55.719 --> 00:58:57.880
one week and that's fun and cool and it doesn't

1130
00:58:57.920 --> 00:59:01.039
have to be like, oh, but also his brother is

1131
00:59:01.199 --> 00:59:04.719
Opo rancisis isn't that crazy? Like it doesn't have to

1132
00:59:04.760 --> 00:59:08.039
connect to everything always I would be okay with that, So.

1133
00:59:08.320 --> 00:59:09.679
That'd be brilliant. Have you watched I have you been

1134
00:59:09.719 --> 00:59:10.559
watching the Accolyte.

1135
00:59:10.840 --> 00:59:13.480
Yeah, Yeah, it's fun.

1136
00:59:14.280 --> 00:59:16.480
Yeah, I think it's super fustic.

1137
00:59:16.719 --> 00:59:18.480
That's the correct review of the Accolade.

1138
00:59:18.599 --> 00:59:21.159
Yeah, I really I'm having a great time, And I

1139
00:59:21.199 --> 00:59:23.119
wonder part of the reason I'm having a great time

1140
00:59:23.280 --> 00:59:27.400
is because it feels it feels of its own, and

1141
00:59:27.480 --> 00:59:31.199
also because it's leaning into like real intensity of connection

1142
00:59:31.920 --> 00:59:35.599
as opposed it's it's building. It's it makes you give

1143
00:59:35.639 --> 00:59:38.639
a shit about the show because you care about these

1144
00:59:38.679 --> 00:59:42.400
people and their relationships, not because it is like associated

1145
00:59:42.480 --> 00:59:44.760
with any greater mythology or whatever it might be.

1146
00:59:45.400 --> 00:59:47.519
So I think it takes a lot for me to

1147
00:59:47.599 --> 00:59:50.840
fully dislike a Star Wars thing at this point, especially

1148
00:59:50.840 --> 00:59:53.079
if it's on my television or in my movie theater.

1149
00:59:53.280 --> 00:59:53.519
You know.

1150
00:59:54.079 --> 00:59:56.800
Like, even the stuff I don't love, I can still

1151
00:59:56.920 --> 00:59:58.760
tell you nine things that I.

1152
00:59:58.760 --> 01:00:02.559
Like about them, such as, Yeah.

1153
01:00:02.480 --> 01:00:07.000
Babu Frick's great. I like Claude. I like it's a

1154
01:00:07.039 --> 01:00:10.360
lot of characters in that movie. I like Boolioh. I

1155
01:00:10.480 --> 01:00:12.760
like roth Guard Dang Like there's a lot of cool

1156
01:00:12.880 --> 01:00:17.880
visuals in that movie. We could keep going if you want. Yeah, please,

1157
01:00:18.320 --> 01:00:22.039
I like I like her saying her last name Skywalker,

1158
01:00:22.159 --> 01:00:24.559
who frankly can I swear on.

1159
01:00:24.559 --> 01:00:30.280
This Oh God, who the fuck cares? That's my thing?

1160
01:00:30.719 --> 01:00:33.400
And I'm so sorry, Kenny, And I'm glad the thumbs

1161
01:00:33.440 --> 01:00:37.119
up came next to your face, but none are coming

1162
01:00:37.119 --> 01:00:39.119
next to ours when we do thumbs up and down.

1163
01:00:39.719 --> 01:00:42.400
I think we turned off. Turn it off. I don't

1164
01:00:42.480 --> 01:00:44.159
because it kept coming up in therapy.

1165
01:00:44.559 --> 01:00:47.760
Yes, U.

1166
01:00:51.159 --> 01:00:51.800
Turn that off.

1167
01:00:51.960 --> 01:00:52.840
I don't know.

1168
01:00:53.800 --> 01:00:56.119
There's a lot in that movie that I'm not crazy about,

1169
01:00:56.280 --> 01:00:57.559
but I do think.

1170
01:00:57.519 --> 01:01:02.400
What you can't name it thing? Rise of Skywalker's bulletproof

1171
01:01:03.239 --> 01:01:04.880
I wish is Star Wars movie.

1172
01:01:05.360 --> 01:01:07.280
Do you want to know my I'm asking you again.

1173
01:01:07.360 --> 01:01:11.239
I'm gonna tell you my general mode about me. Ask

1174
01:01:11.440 --> 01:01:12.920
do you want to know my general note about Rise

1175
01:01:12.960 --> 01:01:13.519
of Skywalker?

1176
01:01:14.320 --> 01:01:20.760
No, okay, I'd love to hear it.

1177
01:01:25.000 --> 01:01:28.760
Say the whole thing, say the whole sentence, ask me,

1178
01:01:29.000 --> 01:01:29.760
ask me for it.

1179
01:01:30.880 --> 01:01:33.239
Can we could we hear what your complete mode is

1180
01:01:33.239 --> 01:01:35.440
on Rise of Skywalker? Please? Patrick Cottner?

1181
01:01:36.199 --> 01:01:38.239
I think it should be three minutes longer. I think

1182
01:01:38.239 --> 01:01:39.519
it should be thirty minutes longer.

1183
01:01:40.559 --> 01:01:45.199
That's not a bad take, that's not a thing. Yeah,

1184
01:01:45.320 --> 01:01:49.000
there are still fundamental problems with it, but that would

1185
01:01:49.840 --> 01:01:52.480
it's more time. Would yeah.

1186
01:01:52.639 --> 01:01:54.960
Yeah, those first like forty five minutes of that movie

1187
01:01:55.199 --> 01:01:58.639
feel like I'm on like Adderall, and I've never taken adderall.

1188
01:01:58.800 --> 01:02:02.519
You know, it's a nice I remember watching that at

1189
01:02:02.559 --> 01:02:07.119
the nine film screening in May. Yeah, and all of them,

1190
01:02:07.360 --> 01:02:10.599
all eight of the movies. I was just like, cool. Yeah,

1191
01:02:11.400 --> 01:02:14.880
the audience there for the prequels is watching them exactly

1192
01:02:14.920 --> 01:02:16.840
the same way, which is just kind of like tongue

1193
01:02:16.880 --> 01:02:19.800
in cheek, loving it but also knowing that it's not

1194
01:02:19.880 --> 01:02:23.800
great original series appropriate reference. And then I'm watching Force

1195
01:02:23.840 --> 01:02:26.280
Awakens and I even turned around to Force Awakens. I

1196
01:02:26.400 --> 01:02:29.639
like that movie. Now Last Jedi a Stone called Masterpiece

1197
01:02:29.679 --> 01:02:32.440
and the Rise of Skywalker. Within the first five minutes

1198
01:02:32.440 --> 01:02:35.280
of that movie, I'm like, this is still going to

1199
01:02:35.360 --> 01:02:36.119
be a disaster.

1200
01:02:36.400 --> 01:02:38.880
I think I've softened on that movie a lot since

1201
01:02:38.920 --> 01:02:42.079
twenty nineteen. When we saw it in twenty nineteen, we

1202
01:02:42.079 --> 01:02:45.400
were on the train back and I was very silent.

1203
01:02:46.719 --> 01:02:49.639
It was very very quiet. And since then, I think

1204
01:02:49.639 --> 01:02:52.000
I've seen it enough that I'm like, I've come to

1205
01:02:52.079 --> 01:02:54.239
appreciate the things that I like about it, and the

1206
01:02:54.280 --> 01:02:56.880
rest I'm just like whatever. But I'm also one of

1207
01:02:56.920 --> 01:02:58.599
those people I know there's a lot of people out

1208
01:02:58.599 --> 01:03:02.119
there who will be like, you know, for example, people

1209
01:03:02.159 --> 01:03:04.000
don't like the last season, have lost, and they'll just

1210
01:03:04.000 --> 01:03:06.519
be like, well, that season didn't happen. That doesn't count

1211
01:03:06.559 --> 01:03:08.719
in my brain, and I'm just like, yeah, but that's

1212
01:03:08.719 --> 01:03:11.679
what happened, that's the story, like whatever, And that's sort

1213
01:03:11.679 --> 01:03:13.639
of how I feel about Ryde skywork or it's just

1214
01:03:13.639 --> 01:03:15.800
like I don't know, that's what happened to those characters.

1215
01:03:15.920 --> 01:03:18.480
It's we don't always like the things that happens to us,

1216
01:03:18.519 --> 01:03:20.960
and like that's that's how it is. You know. I

1217
01:03:21.000 --> 01:03:23.320
think my brain is easily forgivable in a lot of

1218
01:03:23.320 --> 01:03:23.880
those things.

1219
01:03:25.679 --> 01:03:27.599
This is where fan fiction comes into play for me.

1220
01:03:27.880 --> 01:03:29.440
Sure, sure, just right in.

1221
01:03:29.360 --> 01:03:30.079
My own head.

1222
01:03:30.400 --> 01:03:35.679
Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna see I'm I'm a segue speaking

1223
01:03:35.760 --> 01:03:40.719
of films that perhaps weren't great upon first viewing for

1224
01:03:40.840 --> 01:03:42.679
some people, but then have become favorites.

1225
01:03:43.840 --> 01:03:48.679
You're a prequel boy, pre couel boy. Obviously, I'm also

1226
01:03:48.840 --> 01:03:53.079
a prequel boy weirdly, wildly. And I said this before,

1227
01:03:53.239 --> 01:03:54.960
like I saw Phantom Menace when I.

1228
01:03:54.920 --> 01:03:57.760
Was nine and I was seven.

1229
01:03:58.480 --> 01:04:00.760
It was the first Star Wars film I've ever seen,

1230
01:04:01.239 --> 01:04:04.159
and I was. It was I was out of control.

1231
01:04:04.239 --> 01:04:08.159
The stories that I did was like, mother, take me

1232
01:04:08.199 --> 01:04:11.639
to the Blockbusters and like we just like got all

1233
01:04:11.639 --> 01:04:15.000
the days, watched them all in one day, and I

1234
01:04:15.079 --> 01:04:17.639
do this day. I'm like Phantom, Menace a Master.

1235
01:04:17.639 --> 01:04:18.960
Yeah it is.

1236
01:04:19.679 --> 01:04:22.039
We slipped through them again. I think Clone Wars makes

1237
01:04:22.079 --> 01:04:26.079
me like them a lot more, even Attack of the Clones. Famously,

1238
01:04:26.280 --> 01:04:29.199
people is their least favorite. We're watching it and I

1239
01:04:29.239 --> 01:04:30.599
was like, is this.

1240
01:04:32.639 --> 01:04:36.800
Is this movie For a long time when I was

1241
01:04:36.800 --> 01:04:40.480
a kid, I said that was my favorite Star Wars movie.

1242
01:04:40.920 --> 01:04:44.559
Yeah, And I saw the movie three times in theaters,

1243
01:04:44.599 --> 01:04:48.199
including once an Imax, and it's great.

1244
01:04:49.039 --> 01:04:51.079
What so so? Given that?

1245
01:04:51.719 --> 01:04:53.039
Yeah? What what so?

1246
01:04:53.199 --> 01:04:56.679
Bombad Jedi? And like the way you feel about jar Jar? Oh,

1247
01:04:56.840 --> 01:04:59.639
the way this informs that, Like do you love this

1248
01:04:59.679 --> 01:05:01.719
because love those? Or is it kind of like with

1249
01:05:01.760 --> 01:05:03.159
me where I was like, wait, I think this is

1250
01:05:03.199 --> 01:05:05.039
making those better once?

1251
01:05:05.199 --> 01:05:07.239
Oh, I mean, I definitely think it does make it better.

1252
01:05:07.280 --> 01:05:09.280
I do love those though, you know I love jar Jar.

1253
01:05:09.440 --> 01:05:12.079
I'm I'm very pro Jarjar. I think he's funny. I

1254
01:05:12.119 --> 01:05:14.199
think a lot of his jokes land whether people want

1255
01:05:14.280 --> 01:05:17.440
to if you're there to laugh I think they can

1256
01:05:17.480 --> 01:05:20.639
be a very fun time. And I think, like it's

1257
01:05:20.719 --> 01:05:23.519
still jar Jar in this show. You know, he's not

1258
01:05:23.599 --> 01:05:27.440
doing anything different, but he's kind of a little more palatable.

1259
01:05:27.639 --> 01:05:31.079
Sometimes. Yeah he's goofing, he's being a goof He's look,

1260
01:05:31.119 --> 01:05:33.440
I don't like this episode, but jar Jar is way

1261
01:05:33.480 --> 01:05:38.480
more palatable in this episode versus Phantom menace down.

1262
01:05:38.599 --> 01:05:41.360
Do not like this episode because it's silly?

1263
01:05:41.559 --> 01:05:44.199
No, I can do silly. What don't you like in

1264
01:05:44.239 --> 01:05:47.679
this episode? What I don't like about this episode? Number one,

1265
01:05:47.719 --> 01:05:49.760
it's bad. Number two, it's not good.

1266
01:05:49.960 --> 01:05:54.000
Number three, Well, good news, guys, because I brought Kevin

1267
01:05:54.079 --> 01:05:55.280
Rubio here to talk about it.

1268
01:05:55.639 --> 01:06:01.719
Come on in. I wish it was either just an

1269
01:06:01.800 --> 01:06:07.719
all silly episode or give me, give me the padme

1270
01:06:08.159 --> 01:06:11.480
thing and just maintain that tone. I think the tonal

1271
01:06:11.519 --> 01:06:15.400
shifts are I can. I can appreciate a good tonal shift,

1272
01:06:15.480 --> 01:06:18.519
all right. I love the matrix res directions.

1273
01:06:18.880 --> 01:06:24.000
Oh sure, it's because I think that's why it actually

1274
01:06:24.039 --> 01:06:24.719
is more palatable.

1275
01:06:25.079 --> 01:06:30.440
Or disagree? I shift do not work, Kenny, And I

1276
01:06:30.480 --> 01:06:32.960
think that the pad Man's not bad man. The jar

1277
01:06:33.039 --> 01:06:37.119
jarn c three po stuff great, dynamic, great, that's great.

1278
01:06:37.159 --> 01:06:37.519
Buddies.

1279
01:06:39.039 --> 01:06:42.000
Kenny. Here's what I'll say, Aspin and I have seen

1280
01:06:42.000 --> 01:06:47.280
this show, yes, and I have not. I think the

1281
01:06:47.320 --> 01:06:50.760
Padme stuff is maybe the weakest stuff on the whole,

1282
01:06:51.840 --> 01:06:54.480
just because it's a lot of politics stuff and it's

1283
01:06:54.639 --> 01:06:56.599
very dry sometimes.

1284
01:06:56.360 --> 01:06:59.920
For for people listening to the episode, Aspen just launched

1285
01:07:00.039 --> 01:07:04.280
herself dolphin style to the wall. I really you disagree?

1286
01:07:04.320 --> 01:07:06.360
Okay, Well, well let me let me finish what I'm saying.

1287
01:07:06.400 --> 01:07:10.000
Let me finish from singay. I think I think that's

1288
01:07:10.039 --> 01:07:15.159
not saying I dislike them. I just think they're by

1289
01:07:15.400 --> 01:07:17.519
when you add them together. For me, they're the least

1290
01:07:17.599 --> 01:07:20.559
interesting ones necessarily. And I think there's a lot of

1291
01:07:20.599 --> 01:07:23.480
episodes where Padme shows up somewhere and she goes, it's

1292
01:07:23.519 --> 01:07:25.840
my favorite cousin, and the cousin's like, well guess what

1293
01:07:25.960 --> 01:07:28.039
I have wat Tam wore here and he's gonna arrest you.

1294
01:07:28.320 --> 01:07:30.559
And I think that happens a lot on this show.

1295
01:07:31.239 --> 01:07:34.079
So I think having that total shift makes this episode

1296
01:07:34.119 --> 01:07:36.239
stand out from those other episodes in a way that

1297
01:07:36.320 --> 01:07:37.000
I appreciate.

1298
01:07:37.679 --> 01:07:40.920
Oh, that is interesting. That Okay, that in that way

1299
01:07:41.119 --> 01:07:43.880
for as it being like this is we have an

1300
01:07:43.920 --> 01:07:46.519
A and a b story. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and there

1301
01:07:46.559 --> 01:07:48.679
is a balance here because yeah, I think it's true,

1302
01:07:48.719 --> 01:07:53.199
it can become very dry without I think, well placed

1303
01:07:53.400 --> 01:07:55.119
joy and goofreness.

1304
01:07:55.360 --> 01:07:56.519
Yeah, because.

1305
01:07:57.880 --> 01:08:01.360
So Clone Wars makes pad May better because she gets

1306
01:08:01.400 --> 01:08:04.679
more to do, yes, yeah, but she is often relegated.

1307
01:08:04.880 --> 01:08:06.480
It's almost like she gets more to do in that

1308
01:08:06.519 --> 01:08:10.199
way that is like she's very competent and she's doing

1309
01:08:10.320 --> 01:08:12.280
the work of the politics.

1310
01:08:12.639 --> 01:08:12.800
Yeah.

1311
01:08:12.840 --> 01:08:16.279
I guess what I do enjoy is any time there

1312
01:08:16.359 --> 01:08:20.239
is something in the politics of Clone Wars that shows

1313
01:08:20.279 --> 01:08:23.840
that it's not necessarily a cut and dry conflict, that

1314
01:08:24.000 --> 01:08:28.039
there could be reasons why other planets throughout the galaxy

1315
01:08:28.279 --> 01:08:30.920
might actually go with the separatists, And like what does

1316
01:08:30.960 --> 01:08:33.319
it look like, what are the implications of this war

1317
01:08:33.439 --> 01:08:34.880
that's like taking everyone over.

1318
01:08:35.039 --> 01:08:40.159
Really adored uncle Ono being like sorry, I'd love to

1319
01:08:40.199 --> 01:08:43.079
do it, but like the separatists are probably seeing us food.

1320
01:08:43.399 --> 01:08:45.479
Yeah right, that's great, yeah.

1321
01:08:45.319 --> 01:08:47.720
Yeah, Like what is it to be like, well, I'm

1322
01:08:47.720 --> 01:08:52.920
on the right side if everybody's dying, Like, and I

1323
01:08:52.960 --> 01:08:55.159
will say I did not think that the sort of

1324
01:08:55.199 --> 01:08:58.359
like him. You know, obviously at the end we're going

1325
01:08:58.399 --> 01:09:00.479
to be able to go to guys, but sort of thing.

1326
01:09:00.520 --> 01:09:03.359
It's like they really should have helped you, Like they

1327
01:09:03.439 --> 01:09:06.359
really should have Like, fuck, they're a public right now.

1328
01:09:06.600 --> 01:09:07.840
Yeah.

1329
01:09:07.920 --> 01:09:11.239
So one of the things I don't I understand why

1330
01:09:11.239 --> 01:09:13.640
they do this because it is a children's show, okay,

1331
01:09:14.119 --> 01:09:18.319
but something especially early in the early Clone Wars episodes,

1332
01:09:18.760 --> 01:09:22.079
is how a lot of episodes will end with like, well,

1333
01:09:22.279 --> 01:09:24.000
we did it because we love you and we have

1334
01:09:24.079 --> 01:09:25.640
to help out the good of the people. Like they're

1335
01:09:25.680 --> 01:09:29.760
always like laying that, you know, their their thesis down

1336
01:09:29.960 --> 01:09:32.880
so hard, and it definitely happens at the end of

1337
01:09:32.920 --> 01:09:36.199
this episode where whoever has the last line basically like

1338
01:09:36.640 --> 01:09:39.119
just repeats the thesis of the episode.

1339
01:09:38.680 --> 01:09:39.079
Back to you.

1340
01:09:40.000 --> 01:09:41.720
I do think it's funny that there's a lot of

1341
01:09:41.760 --> 01:09:47.000
episodes in a children's show about the negotiating treaties, Like look,

1342
01:09:47.239 --> 01:09:50.800
there's there's like a bail organa pad My episode where

1343
01:09:50.800 --> 01:09:52.760
they're like dealing with like taxes or something like that.

1344
01:09:52.760 --> 01:09:56.159
I think it's phamptom menace proved that you can talk

1345
01:09:56.199 --> 01:10:00.920
about this stuff and kids will be like cool, Yeah, clear.

1346
01:10:00.960 --> 01:10:04.439
I don't I don't dislike the Padme stuff. I just

1347
01:10:04.560 --> 01:10:09.319
do think that it is probably more boring than the

1348
01:10:09.399 --> 01:10:12.920
other stuff because there's no action going on, primarily.

1349
01:10:12.319 --> 01:10:15.039
For the YouTube thumbnail. Should I be like Patrick Cuttner

1350
01:10:15.399 --> 01:10:18.119
thinks that Padme is the stupidest Star Wars character ever,

1351
01:10:19.000 --> 01:10:21.560
and then it's just like a little word bubble that

1352
01:10:21.680 --> 01:10:24.359
says Padme is a soy boy. Yeah.

1353
01:10:24.600 --> 01:10:26.279
I mean, if you want to do it, it'll probably

1354
01:10:26.279 --> 01:10:27.119
get you more clicks.

1355
01:10:27.840 --> 01:10:28.840
I don't know. Patrick.

1356
01:10:29.279 --> 01:10:34.199
On top top female characters we love.

1357
01:10:34.960 --> 01:10:47.880
We love Ula of course, oh Ula sleep bikini leaa ahska,

1358
01:10:47.920 --> 01:10:49.760
but only when she's in that too top.

1359
01:10:58.199 --> 01:11:06.399
I I watched bone Badge that I Kenny Kenny, what

1360
01:11:06.399 --> 01:11:07.680
What's what's your deal?

1361
01:11:08.159 --> 01:11:11.439
What's my deal? Here's what my deal is. Number One,

1362
01:11:11.479 --> 01:11:15.279
I'm a buzzkill. I love to kill the buzz. Number two,

1363
01:11:15.479 --> 01:11:16.920
I'm boring. I'm boring as hell.

1364
01:11:17.439 --> 01:11:17.600
Uh.

1365
01:11:18.439 --> 01:11:20.600
What I like to do is I like to sit

1366
01:11:20.640 --> 01:11:22.600
on my blanket. That's how I relax. I just sit

1367
01:11:22.680 --> 01:11:27.199
on a blanket. Okay. Uh. Number three, I don't like sunsets.

1368
01:11:27.199 --> 01:11:32.119
They're just too colorful. That's what I look. Here's what

1369
01:11:32.199 --> 01:11:36.720
I was gonna say. Uh, it's uh. Number one. What

1370
01:11:36.800 --> 01:11:39.680
I learned from the Felony Zoni George, What did to

1371
01:11:39.760 --> 01:11:43.039
charge our episode. And what was funny watching the behind

1372
01:11:43.079 --> 01:11:46.920
the scenes is kind of watching Folony and his cohort

1373
01:11:47.600 --> 01:11:50.640
kind of be like, George wanted to charge our episode,

1374
01:11:50.880 --> 01:11:54.119
so we did our best. And maybe it's just me

1375
01:11:54.239 --> 01:11:57.560
reading too much into it, but they're like, we really

1376
01:11:57.640 --> 01:12:00.359
didn't want to do I charge our episode, but the

1377
01:12:00.399 --> 01:12:03.520
boss wanted us to do a Jarjar episode. And then

1378
01:12:03.880 --> 01:12:06.720
I gotta respect the hell out of them, just like

1379
01:12:06.920 --> 01:12:10.239
they let George R be jar Jar. They didn't camp

1380
01:12:10.279 --> 01:12:13.319
it out. It's a it's a hell of a risky move.

1381
01:12:13.359 --> 01:12:16.199
Whenever you are starting your one hundred episode order of

1382
01:12:16.279 --> 01:12:20.319
Clone Wars and number five in the production order is

1383
01:12:20.359 --> 01:12:25.079
Bombad Jedi. They are boldly declaring we're not steering away

1384
01:12:25.079 --> 01:12:27.600
from George ar jar Jar's here. It's great.

1385
01:12:27.880 --> 01:12:30.760
Yeah, they don't soften. They don't soften. I'm you're right,

1386
01:12:30.920 --> 01:12:33.479
you know, he's still a mess, though they do have

1387
01:12:33.560 --> 01:12:39.720
more commentary directly about how he sucks find characters.

1388
01:12:40.159 --> 01:12:47.079
Luckily, Folonian team are better filmmakers than Georgia's uh, and

1389
01:12:47.159 --> 01:12:52.479
so they are able to pull up the comedy. Sorry,

1390
01:12:52.560 --> 01:12:57.920
but better filmmakers than George at this time. Uh, I

1391
01:12:57.960 --> 01:13:04.560
mean they pull off the comment is getting crushed, what

1392
01:13:04.600 --> 01:13:05.319
do you want from me?

1393
01:13:05.720 --> 01:13:08.399
Also very funny when he's just like, ooh, there's a

1394
01:13:08.399 --> 01:13:11.159
button that still works. I think that was very funny,

1395
01:13:11.279 --> 01:13:14.079
Like finds the one button that's still It's great, it's

1396
01:13:14.159 --> 01:13:14.640
so good.

1397
01:13:14.920 --> 01:13:19.520
He gives he gives the big underwater slug creature a little.

1398
01:13:19.159 --> 01:13:21.680
That's exactly the phrase I used for it when it happened.

1399
01:13:21.680 --> 01:13:24.319
I said, always give him a little kiss.

1400
01:13:24.359 --> 01:13:26.039
So cute. It's so nice.

1401
01:13:26.159 --> 01:13:28.279
Is c three po going up on that magnet and

1402
01:13:28.279 --> 01:13:29.840
then falling off the mage and then going back up.

1403
01:13:30.079 --> 01:13:32.079
It's very funny, very funny.

1404
01:13:32.239 --> 01:13:35.359
Yeah, there's there's things that happen in Clone Wars and

1405
01:13:35.439 --> 01:13:37.239
like this is a this is an example of it

1406
01:13:37.279 --> 01:13:41.760
where it's like a better version maybe film wise, and

1407
01:13:41.800 --> 01:13:44.479
what had happened in the prequels. It's like the same concept,

1408
01:13:44.520 --> 01:13:47.319
but they do it just slightly better. And you're like nice,

1409
01:13:47.680 --> 01:13:50.720
like because I because that that says to me. I'm like, yeah, Aspen,

1410
01:13:50.760 --> 01:13:52.800
you like the concept, like you like the concept of

1411
01:13:52.840 --> 01:13:55.359
them getting stuck in that droid factory. It just was

1412
01:13:55.399 --> 01:13:59.079
a little weird, like whereas this time around, I'm like perfect,

1413
01:13:59.159 --> 01:14:02.920
no notes off. It is a couple of times, like, oh,

1414
01:14:03.079 --> 01:14:06.000
it happened in that episode where they are inside Grievis

1415
01:14:06.039 --> 01:14:08.960
a ship and it's like there's all the like inside trains,

1416
01:14:09.039 --> 01:14:11.399
which we love trains. We know Filoni loves trains and

1417
01:14:11.439 --> 01:14:13.960
which a lot of like oh three po is like

1418
01:14:14.000 --> 01:14:16.199
stuck on one train and they're like, oh no, you

1419
01:14:16.239 --> 01:14:17.800
have to go get him, and they're like jumping, and

1420
01:14:17.800 --> 01:14:19.399
I'm like, it's like the droid factory.

1421
01:14:19.439 --> 01:14:23.199
But like, you guys know that he also loves wolves.

1422
01:14:24.920 --> 01:14:26.439
Dave Filoni loves wolves?

1423
01:14:26.680 --> 01:14:28.359
Does his brother love wolves too?

1424
01:14:28.640 --> 01:14:31.560
Let's talk about this, Patrick, We're gonna here we go.

1425
01:14:31.640 --> 01:14:34.159
I'm gonna play a sound effect real quick talking about

1426
01:14:34.159 --> 01:14:36.760
something because this is a controversial topic that we talked

1427
01:14:36.760 --> 01:14:42.720
about regularly. Here we go hashtag brother watch. Do you

1428
01:14:42.880 --> 01:14:47.199
know Patrick, Patrick Cottoner, h you do the George Lucas

1429
01:14:47.199 --> 01:14:48.760
talk show, You Live and Breeze star a Wars.

1430
01:14:49.000 --> 01:14:50.680
I'm so nervous for what's about to come.

1431
01:14:51.279 --> 01:14:53.439
What the hell is up with Dave Filoni's brother?

1432
01:14:54.039 --> 01:14:54.199
Oh?

1433
01:14:54.239 --> 01:14:58.000
I don't know exactly. No one knows, No I know.

1434
01:14:58.199 --> 01:15:02.760
Do I know anything about his brother? Why? I don't see? Okay,

1435
01:15:02.880 --> 01:15:06.159
you talked about buying the art of Clone Wars season

1436
01:15:06.239 --> 01:15:11.319
one art book. You are a die hard Star Wars thing.

1437
01:15:11.399 --> 01:15:14.439
That's right over there in.

1438
01:15:14.439 --> 01:15:17.640
Multiple pieces of behind the scenes Clone Wars stuff on

1439
01:15:17.680 --> 01:15:20.399
the Blu ray on your digipack that you and I

1440
01:15:20.479 --> 01:15:22.840
have because we are good people. Yeah.

1441
01:15:23.039 --> 01:15:23.399
Sorry.

1442
01:15:23.600 --> 01:15:29.239
D Faloney talks about his brother giving him inspiration. Now,

1443
01:15:29.319 --> 01:15:32.720
whenever you do a curse research with this brother, yeah, away.

1444
01:15:33.319 --> 01:15:34.960
He doesn't even just like talk about his brother giving

1445
01:15:35.000 --> 01:15:39.399
an inspiration. He will actively refer to him frequently, like,

1446
01:15:39.439 --> 01:15:41.119
and it won't just be like when I was younger

1447
01:15:41.159 --> 01:15:43.760
I liked trains. It'll be like when we were younger,

1448
01:15:43.840 --> 01:15:45.760
my brother and I love trains. You're like, that's fine,

1449
01:15:45.760 --> 01:15:48.119
but then he'll be like my brother and I really

1450
01:15:48.159 --> 01:15:50.760
loved this ship. My brother and I my brother did

1451
01:15:50.800 --> 01:15:53.039
this and yeah. So then if you look.

1452
01:15:52.880 --> 01:15:57.960
Him up, there's no where's the brother, There's no nothing.

1453
01:15:58.239 --> 01:16:00.760
There's not one picture of Dave Filoni bringing his brother

1454
01:16:00.800 --> 01:16:02.960
to a Star Wars premiere, which, if his brother's is

1455
01:16:03.000 --> 01:16:06.359
an inspiration, where's this. I hope that something very bad

1456
01:16:06.359 --> 01:16:07.600
didn't happen to his brothers.

1457
01:16:07.920 --> 01:16:10.720
We're just I was just gonna bring this up.

1458
01:16:11.439 --> 01:16:16.279
Oh no, maybe we're terrible people what we're terrible people.

1459
01:16:16.399 --> 01:16:19.640
Kenny one, I wouldn't say, I don't like having this

1460
01:16:19.760 --> 01:16:20.760
reaction this way.

1461
01:16:21.000 --> 01:16:23.920
I would say, maybe pull this chunk.

1462
01:16:23.640 --> 01:16:26.920
From the I'm not gonna pull this chunk from the episode.

1463
01:16:26.920 --> 01:16:28.880
I think we got it. I don't know. I don't know.

1464
01:16:29.039 --> 01:16:31.920
Is the answer. His parents and grandparents and an aunt

1465
01:16:32.000 --> 01:16:33.520
or uncle's name is on IMDb.

1466
01:16:34.520 --> 01:16:36.199
Uh, very interesting.

1467
01:16:36.199 --> 01:16:38.960
The person's name is Paul Edward prison the lack and

1468
01:16:39.000 --> 01:16:40.399
it says aunt or uncle.

1469
01:16:41.840 --> 01:16:43.560
It could be either one, could be the other one.

1470
01:16:43.640 --> 01:16:44.039
I don't know.

1471
01:16:45.560 --> 01:16:46.159
Yeah, I don't know.

1472
01:16:46.800 --> 01:16:49.319
I'm not going to pull this Okay, I think I

1473
01:16:49.319 --> 01:16:51.399
think I'm gonna double down on it and just look

1474
01:16:51.479 --> 01:16:52.720
like a terrible person twice.

1475
01:16:52.760 --> 01:16:53.520
I guess then.

1476
01:16:54.119 --> 01:16:56.720
This is This is the actual thumbnail. It's just like

1477
01:16:57.199 --> 01:16:59.760
Aspen and Kenny make fun of dead.

1478
01:17:01.119 --> 01:17:03.560
Hold on, let you make like a YouTube appropriate face.

1479
01:17:09.399 --> 01:17:12.279
Now, well, well, it's really good that we had a

1480
01:17:12.319 --> 01:17:12.840
good person.

1481
01:17:12.920 --> 01:17:15.279
Should we should we in the brother watch segment? We

1482
01:17:15.319 --> 01:17:21.960
should take the brother Watch segment out? Well?

1483
01:17:22.039 --> 01:17:25.439
Yeah, and it's to get into something even far less

1484
01:17:25.640 --> 01:17:32.239
uh sketchy for us to be talking about. I I

1485
01:17:32.279 --> 01:17:36.359
think it is worth talking about recognizing that we are

1486
01:17:36.479 --> 01:17:40.359
a group of white people because we're we're chatting about

1487
01:17:40.359 --> 01:17:42.840
this a little bit of like obviously there's a lot

1488
01:17:42.920 --> 01:17:46.760
of racial pieces that are involved in the discussion of

1489
01:17:47.079 --> 01:17:52.840
jar j r. H. And the clarification to always make

1490
01:17:53.039 --> 01:17:56.640
is that my best was fantastic and didn't deserve any

1491
01:17:56.720 --> 01:18:00.239
kind of bullshit that was thrown his way. Yes, and

1492
01:18:00.319 --> 01:18:03.640
feels proud of this work that he did and should

1493
01:18:03.720 --> 01:18:10.920
feel proud so. And also like the kind of representation,

1494
01:18:11.079 --> 01:18:14.680
the kind of thing that was presented by Lucas and

1495
01:18:14.720 --> 01:18:18.079
by their writing, like does like have like it seeps

1496
01:18:18.159 --> 01:18:21.319
a little into these spaces of racist race's kind of

1497
01:18:22.399 --> 01:18:23.880
minstrel ry maybe yes.

1498
01:18:23.720 --> 01:18:27.119
Right so, but both depin fetch It is a huge

1499
01:18:27.159 --> 01:18:31.279
inspiration to this character step What is that Stephen fetch It?

1500
01:18:31.880 --> 01:18:38.520
Basically a minstrel caricature character? Uh, who was you know

1501
01:18:38.760 --> 01:18:42.560
popular around the well George Lucas would be watching Stephen

1502
01:18:42.560 --> 01:18:46.199
Fetchit material whenever he's a kid and be inspired by

1503
01:18:46.239 --> 01:18:48.399
that and think that that's hilarious and bring that kind

1504
01:18:48.439 --> 01:18:52.319
of dynamic into it along with you know what is

1505
01:18:52.479 --> 01:18:55.760
inspirations of Buster Keaton another silent Comedians that he says

1506
01:18:55.760 --> 01:18:57.520
in the beginning Stevin.

1507
01:18:57.279 --> 01:18:59.720
Fetch It did die in nineteen eighty five, which means

1508
01:19:00.039 --> 01:19:03.000
eevably he could have seen the entire original trilogy in theaters.

1509
01:19:03.800 --> 01:19:06.800
So wow, Thank goodness, who knows? Who knows?

1510
01:19:07.079 --> 01:19:14.720
Yeah, yeah, but I do feel fundamentally like the Clone Wars,

1511
01:19:14.800 --> 01:19:17.560
I feel like starts to like undo a bit of that.

1512
01:19:18.600 --> 01:19:20.880
Obviously I am not the one who gets to say that,

1513
01:19:21.159 --> 01:19:21.479
but like.

1514
01:19:24.079 --> 01:19:28.479
Kenny is, go ahead, hello, I mean polony making the

1515
01:19:28.479 --> 01:19:34.960
Pniemoidians sound boring Merican whenever they're not newt gun Ray. Yeah, yeah,

1516
01:19:35.000 --> 01:19:40.560
helps be like, it's not We're good, everything's good. Yeah,

1517
01:19:40.800 --> 01:19:43.039
he just talks like that. It's not it's not weird,

1518
01:19:43.079 --> 01:19:44.119
don't worry sort of.

1519
01:19:44.279 --> 01:19:48.520
It's sort of the Obviously Yoda does not have the

1520
01:19:48.600 --> 01:19:51.319
racial connotations that these other characters do, but the fact

1521
01:19:51.319 --> 01:19:54.439
that Yaddle talks normal and Yoda doesn't where you're just like,

1522
01:19:54.600 --> 01:19:56.840
I don't know, sometimes people talk differently.

1523
01:19:57.000 --> 01:20:03.079
That's what I see. Will just like have weird voices. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Yeah.

1524
01:20:03.600 --> 01:20:06.199
You've got the synthesis of we've got new gun Ray

1525
01:20:06.199 --> 01:20:08.760
in this episode, We've got Jarjarror in this episode, and

1526
01:20:08.800 --> 01:20:11.520
then we've got the Rhodians, where according to The behind

1527
01:20:11.520 --> 01:20:15.920
the scenes is a synthesis of Middle Eastern Thailand and Vietnam. Vibes.

1528
01:20:17.159 --> 01:20:21.159
Vibes sure, Editors note, I put vibes in there. Okay,

1529
01:20:22.239 --> 01:20:24.199
that would have been wild if the production designer I

1530
01:20:24.239 --> 01:20:27.760
was like, vibes. Yeah.

1531
01:20:27.800 --> 01:20:29.840
I mean there's a lot of inspiration that they pull,

1532
01:20:30.159 --> 01:20:34.920
like of Earth Earth culture. Like it is kind of funny.

1533
01:20:35.119 --> 01:20:37.680
I've always thought it was really hilarious that Twilights are French.

1534
01:20:38.800 --> 01:20:41.119
I'm sorry, what French.

1535
01:20:42.800 --> 01:20:46.039
They speak with French accents and they're speaking English.

1536
01:20:46.279 --> 01:20:52.720
It's wild. In rebels, I can speaking rebels and clon Wars. Sorry,

1537
01:20:52.720 --> 01:20:54.319
but I'm just thinking about the fact that I've seen

1538
01:20:54.359 --> 01:20:55.960
all of rebels and I'm just like, yeah.

1539
01:20:56.239 --> 01:20:59.560
Well, it's because when Haara Harrah goes back home and

1540
01:20:59.600 --> 01:21:02.039
she like falls back into our accent, like a lah

1541
01:21:02.079 --> 01:21:04.800
when I would my mother in Florida. And then suddenly

1542
01:21:04.880 --> 01:21:06.920
I'm just like, well, well, you just got like a

1543
01:21:08.039 --> 01:21:10.680
room full of rock and chairs. It can't stay, you know.

1544
01:21:11.960 --> 01:21:14.600
Sorry, what, don't worry about it.

1545
01:21:14.600 --> 01:21:16.279
Don't wry about it. Putterbeans, don't worry about it.

1546
01:21:16.279 --> 01:21:16.840
They should have.

1547
01:21:16.800 --> 01:21:19.479
Special edition bib Fortuna's voice to be French.

1548
01:21:22.159 --> 01:21:24.920
It's not just George is still alive.

1549
01:21:25.800 --> 01:21:29.520
Yeah, yes, Like that's the real that's a real change

1550
01:21:29.560 --> 01:21:29.680
to me.

1551
01:21:29.720 --> 01:21:32.159
There's a question for you too, would you be okay

1552
01:21:32.199 --> 01:21:34.199
if they were like we're doing another special edition?

1553
01:21:34.560 --> 01:21:38.560
Hell yeah, do it? I got the originals over here.

1554
01:21:38.840 --> 01:21:42.560
Yeah, I guess. Yeah, I mean our our George.

1555
01:21:43.199 --> 01:21:47.880
George is not involved. Oh no, but we're we're like fixing,

1556
01:21:47.960 --> 01:21:50.479
We're fixing up some of the cg We're like making

1557
01:21:50.479 --> 01:21:53.119
stuff cleaner. We're not adding or taking out anything, but

1558
01:21:53.199 --> 01:21:54.960
like it just looks a little nicer.

1559
01:21:55.680 --> 01:21:59.319
Our biggest frustration with any of like the special editions

1560
01:21:59.439 --> 01:22:02.079
isn't that they happened. Well, my biggest frustration is that

1561
01:22:02.760 --> 01:22:06.079
stupid Jaba scene. But know, the real frustration is that

1562
01:22:06.199 --> 01:22:10.560
they are done and then the others are so hard

1563
01:22:10.560 --> 01:22:14.600
to find and that they were basically deleted because of

1564
01:22:14.680 --> 01:22:17.520
someone deciding that he wanted to full control over the thing.

1565
01:22:17.720 --> 01:22:21.159
That's you know, we have it, we have someone.

1566
01:22:21.640 --> 01:22:24.720
Someone who knows who and like we have these like

1567
01:22:24.760 --> 01:22:27.359
we have access to those originals, but they're they're not

1568
01:22:27.399 --> 01:22:30.039
that easy for everyone to get. That's the frustration.

1569
01:22:31.319 --> 01:22:34.199
Can I tell you both? The secret? Always?

1570
01:22:35.119 --> 01:22:35.760
Should we cut this?

1571
01:22:36.239 --> 01:22:38.399
I don't know if I've ever seen the non special

1572
01:22:38.520 --> 01:22:40.840
edition versions, Patrick.

1573
01:22:40.520 --> 01:22:42.279
Cottner, I don't think I have.

1574
01:22:42.880 --> 01:22:47.840
I know, well, that's going to be the thumbnail, big

1575
01:22:47.920 --> 01:22:55.479
secret reveal. Yeah, you've done four thousand hours at the

1576
01:22:55.520 --> 01:22:59.199
George Lucas talk show and you you you've bought the

1577
01:22:59.319 --> 01:23:03.520
art of Clone Wark. You've never seen the original theatrical version.

1578
01:23:03.600 --> 01:23:07.439
I keep meaning, I keep meaning to buy these specialized copies,

1579
01:23:08.119 --> 01:23:10.760
but they keep coming out with new versions of it,

1580
01:23:10.840 --> 01:23:12.680
and I'm like, well, when is this going to stop?

1581
01:23:12.720 --> 01:23:14.560
When do I buy the copy? You know what I mean?

1582
01:23:14.680 --> 01:23:17.479
You gotta don't go with the despecialized versions. You got

1583
01:23:17.479 --> 01:23:20.199
to go with the four K scan, the scan of

1584
01:23:20.239 --> 01:23:24.680
the thirty five millimeter print. It looks it is far

1585
01:23:24.720 --> 01:23:28.479
and away the best transfer of anything that I own. Period.

1586
01:23:29.600 --> 01:23:32.600
Share this with me. You shared these with me, that's why.

1587
01:23:32.640 --> 01:23:36.720
Yeah, along with the theatrical version of The Phantom Menace,

1588
01:23:36.960 --> 01:23:42.039
and I think yes, the Phantom edit and Attack of

1589
01:23:43.119 --> 01:23:45.720
the Attack of the Editor or Phantom.

1590
01:23:45.600 --> 01:23:50.159
Patrick, if you want well then I don't know. Do

1591
01:23:50.199 --> 01:23:54.239
you just want to Well you can like rip it,

1592
01:23:55.520 --> 01:23:56.399
you can burn a CD.

1593
01:23:56.680 --> 01:24:00.359
Yeah. Sure, to go back to your question, I want

1594
01:24:00.359 --> 01:24:02.800
a subsequent special Edition. I wouldn't want one from Disney

1595
01:24:02.840 --> 01:24:07.039
because that would be the wonderful thing about the special editions,

1596
01:24:07.079 --> 01:24:08.520
which is a wild thing that I never thought that

1597
01:24:08.520 --> 01:24:11.319
I would say, is the vanity that's involved. It's just

1598
01:24:11.439 --> 01:24:15.760
it's further every single change that has made some of

1599
01:24:15.800 --> 01:24:18.960
them I kind of understand, but others are just like

1600
01:24:19.039 --> 01:24:22.800
what what? Why? And then there's the conspiracy theory that

1601
01:24:22.920 --> 01:24:24.920
is to cut Marshall Lucas out, And I'm just like,

1602
01:24:25.520 --> 01:24:28.239
if you wanted to cut Marshall Lucas out, though, why

1603
01:24:28.279 --> 01:24:31.760
didn't he just stop at the nineteen ninety seven versions there?

1604
01:24:33.399 --> 01:24:36.199
And I never thought about that part that is interesting.

1605
01:24:36.319 --> 01:24:41.800
Yeah, yeah, Why why continually go back and then like

1606
01:24:42.039 --> 01:24:48.119
adds such famous things? Is? Why why do that? Not

1607
01:24:48.159 --> 01:24:51.680
only that? Patrick? Are you familiar with the Star Wars

1608
01:24:51.840 --> 01:24:55.039
Revisited project? I'm sort of obsessed with it.

1609
01:24:56.039 --> 01:25:00.560
Are you familiar with No, Patrick, I've never watched, but yes,

1610
01:25:00.600 --> 01:25:02.760
I would love to explain it to you. I believe

1611
01:25:02.800 --> 01:25:06.680
it's sw Revisited dot com. I think that's the website

1612
01:25:06.720 --> 01:25:10.840
for it. Again, never watched these, but I will spend

1613
01:25:11.319 --> 01:25:14.199
so long just going through and reading this website. And

1614
01:25:14.239 --> 01:25:18.600
it's a guy who's trying to make everything coherent. So

1615
01:25:18.680 --> 01:25:23.560
it's like, oh, you know the the I don't even know.

1616
01:25:23.600 --> 01:25:26.119
Like the screens look different from here to here, so

1617
01:25:26.159 --> 01:25:28.760
we've changed the color of the green that's on this

1618
01:25:28.800 --> 01:25:32.079
one screen that's not on another screen, or like we're

1619
01:25:32.239 --> 01:25:34.680
we're updating this. So it looks the same as it

1620
01:25:34.680 --> 01:25:36.720
does in Phantom Menace, as it doesn't Revenge of the

1621
01:25:36.720 --> 01:25:38.920
Sith because it's the same place, but it's a different time.

1622
01:25:38.960 --> 01:25:42.079
They made it look different, like it's it's the silliest things,

1623
01:25:42.359 --> 01:25:44.680
but I'm just so curious to see what it looks like.

1624
01:25:44.760 --> 01:25:46.920
I've seen some little clips from it, and some of

1625
01:25:46.960 --> 01:25:49.199
them look good and some of them don't look that great.

1626
01:25:50.199 --> 01:25:54.640
But he fixed the Emperor and made that, Yeah, made

1627
01:25:54.640 --> 01:25:58.359
the e. Mcdarmott footage match the theatrical cut. Yeah, while

1628
01:25:58.399 --> 01:26:02.000
also providing a new hood and it looks great. And

1629
01:26:02.039 --> 01:26:05.800
then simultaneously there are weird stuff like R two deps

1630
01:26:05.840 --> 01:26:09.000
because I have watched it, Yeah, R two D two

1631
01:26:09.439 --> 01:26:14.560
In episode four, the red he inserts the red and

1632
01:26:14.600 --> 01:26:17.880
blue there, but it just wasn't like, it just wasn't there,

1633
01:26:17.920 --> 01:26:20.119
and so it looks rough and I can't watch it.

1634
01:26:20.439 --> 01:26:22.439
You know, there's also cute stuff like he throws in

1635
01:26:22.479 --> 01:26:25.920
a battle droid in the Junkyard or in the sand Crawler,

1636
01:26:25.960 --> 01:26:27.680
and you're like, yeah, that's pretty cool. That's cool. But

1637
01:26:27.720 --> 01:26:30.439
it also gets it also gets as granular as like

1638
01:26:30.760 --> 01:26:35.640
these aspen it gets as granular as these starfields don't match. Yeah,

1639
01:26:35.640 --> 01:26:39.199
so we are going to go match the star fields, which.

1640
01:26:39.119 --> 01:26:41.640
Is Neil de grass Tyson shin Yeah unreal.

1641
01:26:42.159 --> 01:26:42.399
Yeah.

1642
01:26:42.439 --> 01:26:45.039
He could also just like go to therapy, but he doesn't,

1643
01:26:45.359 --> 01:26:47.319
you know, like that would probably help a lot of this.

1644
01:26:47.880 --> 01:26:49.680
Everyone everyone needs a hobby.

1645
01:26:49.720 --> 01:26:52.479
Everyone needs a hobby, and some of them, this one's

1646
01:26:52.600 --> 01:26:57.560
very specific. He's like recoloring everything and re you know,

1647
01:26:57.640 --> 01:27:01.159
he's just like doing it all and it's uh, it's impressive.

1648
01:27:01.399 --> 01:27:04.159
It's very impressive, and I am excited to see them

1649
01:27:04.159 --> 01:27:05.279
once they're all done.

1650
01:27:07.119 --> 01:27:10.800
Yeah, also like stuff like sorry, you go ahead, No,

1651
01:27:10.920 --> 01:27:11.119
I was.

1652
01:27:11.119 --> 01:27:16.920
Gonna go off tow revisited dot WordPress, dot com. You

1653
01:27:16.920 --> 01:27:18.199
don't want to talk about that anymore.

1654
01:27:20.239 --> 01:27:24.680
So this goes back to your question of would you

1655
01:27:24.920 --> 01:27:29.760
watch a special edition, and it's the whenever the special

1656
01:27:29.880 --> 01:27:33.159
editions came out and Star Wars fans were like, no,

1657
01:27:33.560 --> 01:27:38.359
this is not my Star Wars and this only builds

1658
01:27:38.359 --> 01:27:41.079
the cult of Star Wars to where there's this weird

1659
01:27:41.239 --> 01:27:46.119
ownership with Star Wars in a way that unlike other big, giant,

1660
01:27:46.159 --> 01:27:50.600
massive properties where you have fan films, you got all

1661
01:27:50.640 --> 01:27:53.319
of these things that are trying to remix the mythology,

1662
01:27:53.680 --> 01:27:55.920
and then you also have this weird subculture of Star

1663
01:27:55.960 --> 01:27:58.319
Wars fans being like, how do we get the most

1664
01:27:58.359 --> 01:28:02.079
original version of Star Wars, And there's a weird new

1665
01:28:02.199 --> 01:28:04.319
kind of ownership with Star Wars in a way like

1666
01:28:04.640 --> 01:28:07.840
Star Trek fans love Star Wars or Star Trek fans

1667
01:28:07.840 --> 01:28:10.960
love Star Wars. They do great statement, but Star Trek

1668
01:28:11.119 --> 01:28:16.119
fans can also access all of their material legally pretty easily,

1669
01:28:16.520 --> 01:28:17.279
and so there's not.

1670
01:28:17.279 --> 01:28:20.159
Those degree They have the special editions, but they also

1671
01:28:20.159 --> 01:28:22.920
have the normal ones, right for Star Trek, like it's yeah, yes.

1672
01:28:23.560 --> 01:28:28.479
Yes, And whenever they did the next generation high definition Master,

1673
01:28:29.479 --> 01:28:32.199
they tried to stick to things as close as possible.

1674
01:28:32.239 --> 01:28:34.039
But also you can go get the DVDs of the

1675
01:28:34.039 --> 01:28:37.720
original Masters pretty darn easily, so it's not like those

1676
01:28:37.760 --> 01:28:42.199
things are not original as opposed to Star Wars, where

1677
01:28:42.199 --> 01:28:45.640
it's just this weird ownership and this weird constant dialogue

1678
01:28:45.640 --> 01:28:48.960
with Star Wars sucks, but also a worship at the

1679
01:28:49.000 --> 01:28:53.479
altar of Star Wars. It's so interesting Star Wars. I

1680
01:28:53.520 --> 01:28:55.960
think talking about Star Wars is interesting.

1681
01:28:56.279 --> 01:28:58.439
I think it's fun. Yeah, I guess the question I

1682
01:28:58.439 --> 01:29:00.800
always come back to is like you would end, like

1683
01:29:00.840 --> 01:29:04.800
what's the objective of the thing, And if it would be, yeah,

1684
01:29:04.880 --> 01:29:06.560
let's just clean it up a little bit, do some

1685
01:29:06.600 --> 01:29:08.800
good color grading, lighten it up if it's too dark,

1686
01:29:09.359 --> 01:29:11.560
you know, like that kind of thing. I'm in, Like,

1687
01:29:11.640 --> 01:29:15.760
this sounds cool. But if it is for like some

1688
01:29:15.920 --> 01:29:19.640
kind of strange, like more vanity project, if it's to

1689
01:29:19.680 --> 01:29:21.479
try to exert a power in a weird kind of

1690
01:29:21.479 --> 01:29:23.159
way of them, I don't know.

1691
01:29:23.359 --> 01:29:25.079
Well, I mean that's also my thing where I'm like,

1692
01:29:25.119 --> 01:29:28.640
I want to watch those, for example, these specialized ones.

1693
01:29:28.680 --> 01:29:30.560
But then he keeps putting on new versions and I'm

1694
01:29:30.600 --> 01:29:33.159
just like, is this ever going to end? Like You're

1695
01:29:33.199 --> 01:29:34.680
just going to go back to New Hope and just

1696
01:29:34.720 --> 01:29:36.600
start on New Hope again? Then like why am I?

1697
01:29:36.760 --> 01:29:37.760
Why am I doing this now?

1698
01:29:37.840 --> 01:29:38.039
You know?

1699
01:29:38.800 --> 01:29:42.319
Yeah, it feels very frustrated, it feels have you ever

1700
01:29:42.359 --> 01:29:43.560
heard of eyebrow blindness?

1701
01:29:44.319 --> 01:29:47.079
No? So back.

1702
01:29:47.439 --> 01:29:49.560
I think it's it's like happening now with like it's

1703
01:29:49.600 --> 01:29:52.399
like lip filler blindness too. Like eyebrow blindness is where

1704
01:29:53.000 --> 01:29:55.920
people would start to, you know, they tweeze their eyebrows,

1705
01:29:56.000 --> 01:29:59.359
and then they become used to how besides their eyebrows,

1706
01:29:59.359 --> 01:30:01.119
and then they use it more and then they just

1707
01:30:01.199 --> 01:30:03.319
keep tweezing and that's how it gets like really thinner.

1708
01:30:03.359 --> 01:30:05.720
Now it's like flip fillers, Like you get used to

1709
01:30:05.720 --> 01:30:08.000
your lips being fillers. You put too much in and

1710
01:30:08.039 --> 01:30:12.239
it's like that. But for the special editions of Star Wars, sure,

1711
01:30:12.920 --> 01:30:14.560
eyebrow Blindness special edition.

1712
01:30:16.279 --> 01:30:22.039
That's too. To bring it to the central concept of

1713
01:30:22.079 --> 01:30:25.760
the podcast, oh welcome of comparing a contrasting Star Trek

1714
01:30:25.800 --> 01:30:27.439
and Star Wars, and.

1715
01:30:28.079 --> 01:30:30.079
Yeah, were's the star We's got a lot of stuff

1716
01:30:30.079 --> 01:30:30.800
that I feel the.

1717
01:30:30.760 --> 01:30:34.000
One podcast that to ask the question which is better

1718
01:30:34.159 --> 01:30:39.880
Star Trek or Star Wars. But you're talking about eyebrow blindness,

1719
01:30:39.880 --> 01:30:42.800
and George Lucas and g Rodberry both become two creators

1720
01:30:42.880 --> 01:30:46.720
that are too close to the material and their personal

1721
01:30:46.760 --> 01:30:52.800
legacies are built on these things. Yeah, George Lucas can't

1722
01:30:52.840 --> 01:30:57.760
really ever recapture the creative magic that he did in

1723
01:30:57.840 --> 01:31:02.600
the theatrical well, specifically with seventy seven Star Wars, but

1724
01:31:02.640 --> 01:31:05.319
also the things that he produces outside of Indiana Jones.

1725
01:31:06.399 --> 01:31:09.199
Although Patrick might disagree, he might just be the biggest

1726
01:31:09.199 --> 01:31:13.039
fan of strange magic. I mean, I'm not a small fan.

1727
01:31:17.560 --> 01:31:20.720
Do I have a framed poster in the closet over there, Yeah,

1728
01:31:20.840 --> 01:31:25.079
of course I do, a UK Quad poster. Of course

1729
01:31:25.119 --> 01:31:25.720
it is.

1730
01:31:31.319 --> 01:31:35.239
But similarly, they like, at some point they fundamentally misunderstand

1731
01:31:35.279 --> 01:31:38.439
what the heck made those things special. You can go

1732
01:31:38.520 --> 01:31:43.359
off on these wild tangents that are only for a

1733
01:31:43.520 --> 01:31:45.960
casual viewer. They're like, what happened to the thing that

1734
01:31:46.039 --> 01:31:48.560
I like? But then from the met textual level, you're like,

1735
01:31:48.960 --> 01:31:54.000
these people are unhinged. I'm so excited for asking to

1736
01:31:54.000 --> 01:31:57.560
get to the next generation episode Code of Honor, where

1737
01:31:57.600 --> 01:32:00.960
you will be like Gene Roddenberry has missed the point

1738
01:32:01.960 --> 01:32:05.800
so too with Georgia Boy, I mean, coming along with

1739
01:32:05.880 --> 01:32:08.920
Phantom Menace and just kind of being like, this is well,

1740
01:32:08.960 --> 01:32:11.600
this is his version of Star Wars, but fans are

1741
01:32:11.680 --> 01:32:16.279
just like and then Filoni comes and then also the

1742
01:32:16.319 --> 01:32:19.039
fun thing about watching these properties is whenever people from

1743
01:32:19.079 --> 01:32:21.720
the outside, come along and are like, I think I

1744
01:32:21.800 --> 01:32:24.520
might understand the source material just a little bit better

1745
01:32:24.600 --> 01:32:24.880
than you.

1746
01:32:25.319 --> 01:32:30.560
And then to get to a Sunny Day in the Void,

1747
01:32:31.199 --> 01:32:33.319
just because I can't wait to see what your take

1748
01:32:33.439 --> 01:32:37.119
is on that one. Either people's favorite or at least

1749
01:32:37.159 --> 01:32:38.399
favorite episode of Clone Wars.

1750
01:32:38.720 --> 01:32:40.800
Oh, I'll probably like it.

1751
01:32:40.840 --> 01:32:45.920
Then, Yeah, real iconic class over here again.

1752
01:32:45.960 --> 01:32:47.920
I love Matrice has directions. I think it's a stone

1753
01:32:47.920 --> 01:32:50.000
cold masterpiece. And I bet that everyone's going to be

1754
01:32:50.039 --> 01:32:50.640
with me soon.

1755
01:32:51.000 --> 01:32:52.680
This is so funny. I forgot what it was called.

1756
01:32:52.720 --> 01:32:58.079
I just call it the Droids episode.

1757
01:32:59.079 --> 01:33:00.640
Here we go, Here we Go.

1758
01:33:01.760 --> 01:33:04.760
Maybe I'll like them more this time. Maybe maybe.

1759
01:33:06.560 --> 01:33:08.119
They're Georgia's favorite episodes.

1760
01:33:08.159 --> 01:33:13.159
Can of course they are. Uh what else? What else

1761
01:33:13.159 --> 01:33:16.920
do you like?

1762
01:33:16.920 --> 01:33:22.319
Like sunny days?

1763
01:33:22.760 --> 01:33:23.479
I like.

1764
01:33:25.560 --> 01:33:26.640
You can just play it.

1765
01:33:28.960 --> 01:33:31.640
A long time ago.

1766
01:33:32.359 --> 01:33:33.600
Start dating this week.

1767
01:33:34.279 --> 01:33:38.439
I quoted a boat, I dated a game, but none

1768
01:33:38.479 --> 01:33:41.840
of them could work mine. Drive into high birth space.

1769
01:33:45.199 --> 01:33:45.840
The best of.

1770
01:33:45.840 --> 01:33:53.680
Both worlds can meet in the second place, Captain slog

1771
01:33:54.119 --> 01:33:58.479
on a Hallo kron. I wanted a song. I pend

1772
01:33:58.520 --> 01:34:03.760
a song. Seventeen more minutes avised in super high dem

1773
01:34:06.640 --> 01:34:10.960
aboard the USS Enterprise DTV.

1774
01:34:14.159 --> 01:34:17.960
Don't you take my walk lighter and clip it. Don't

1775
01:34:18.000 --> 01:34:20.199
you take my Richard buddy and nip it?

1776
01:34:21.279 --> 01:34:23.840
If you spill the tea, I'm gonna sip it.

1777
01:34:26.239 --> 01:34:27.960
But what the heck are we doing right now?

1778
01:34:29.279 --> 01:34:34.359
We're going to determine from either property, uh, your favorite

1779
01:34:34.359 --> 01:34:39.239
starship that flies through the sky or vehicle. It depends

1780
01:34:39.520 --> 01:34:41.640
because we did do a lot of ewoks where they're

1781
01:34:41.720 --> 01:34:45.279
not any starships. Again, you can just pick either one,

1782
01:34:45.439 --> 01:34:51.359
and also your favorite romantic can start your ship in

1783
01:34:51.399 --> 01:34:51.960
the stars.

1784
01:34:52.800 --> 01:34:56.039
These are these are in these particular episodes that we watched,

1785
01:34:56.159 --> 01:34:57.479
or this is anything.

1786
01:34:57.760 --> 01:35:01.840
So it is typically these particular episodes, so if you

1787
01:35:01.880 --> 01:35:05.119
do have something, but also because you're a guest, you

1788
01:35:05.159 --> 01:35:07.319
can also pick from anything if you'd like to.

1789
01:35:07.840 --> 01:35:09.880
Well yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

1790
01:35:09.439 --> 01:35:10.600
If the constraints help you.

1791
01:35:11.359 --> 01:35:14.199
Look, we're talking about how good of a couple are

1792
01:35:15.119 --> 01:35:16.239
three and jar jar are?

1793
01:35:17.760 --> 01:35:18.000
Yes?

1794
01:35:18.439 --> 01:35:23.600
Actually yeah, we'll start. Let's start with the romantic ship. Yes, sorry, beautiful,

1795
01:35:23.640 --> 01:35:27.279
could be fun, it could be nice, could be nice.

1796
01:35:27.760 --> 01:35:31.880
They don't have much interaction in those movies right now.

1797
01:35:32.520 --> 01:35:36.239
It is a surprisingly unexpected but watching this, I'm like, oh,

1798
01:35:36.479 --> 01:35:40.680
of course, of course, absolutely makes sense. Yeah, jar Jar

1799
01:35:41.119 --> 01:35:45.079
and three PO having an oddly cool head in comparison

1800
01:35:45.079 --> 01:35:50.479
to jar Jar. Yeah, could be for jar Jar of

1801
01:35:50.560 --> 01:35:54.319
possibly being a frantic bottom.

1802
01:35:54.800 --> 01:35:57.960
I like to call it the like the black cat

1803
01:35:58.319 --> 01:36:02.520
and like little fluffy puppy dog like dynamic. And in

1804
01:36:02.560 --> 01:36:04.600
this three p O is like the kind of sticky

1805
01:36:04.640 --> 01:36:08.439
cat and and uh, jar Jar is the fluffy dog. Yeah,

1806
01:36:09.119 --> 01:36:12.399
so that's just like a nice dynamic. You know, some

1807
01:36:12.439 --> 01:36:17.159
people have that with their partners.

1808
01:36:17.359 --> 01:36:19.920
It feels like your bones are trying to escape your skin.

1809
01:36:20.000 --> 01:36:26.920
Whenever you say that, guess which one I am. So

1810
01:36:27.000 --> 01:36:29.600
there's that cool. Let's good on. I like that.

1811
01:36:29.920 --> 01:36:34.880
I mean, as far as ships go, the ship and

1812
01:36:34.920 --> 01:36:37.000
I'm gonna have to I'm gonna have to hold type

1813
01:36:37.000 --> 01:36:37.279
for you.

1814
01:36:37.760 --> 01:36:39.720
We got to go down. We got we got a

1815
01:36:39.760 --> 01:36:41.960
shape a show, got a shape a show.

1816
01:36:42.119 --> 01:36:43.119
We didn't explain this to you.

1817
01:36:43.279 --> 01:36:47.720
We didn't explain this to it's our faultault. But you

1818
01:36:47.760 --> 01:36:52.720
are crossing a line. We got. We have to go

1819
01:36:52.800 --> 01:36:55.039
and we'll come back to you and then we will

1820
01:36:55.079 --> 01:36:57.560
come back and you could say your favorite space and

1821
01:36:57.560 --> 01:37:00.119
then we can do That's what will happen. That's the

1822
01:37:00.119 --> 01:37:08.199
shape of ship. Go ahead, do you want to go

1823
01:37:09.279 --> 01:37:11.680
h yeah, absolutely, I'm going to be jar Jar and

1824
01:37:11.760 --> 01:37:15.600
that big honkin fish like fish.

1825
01:37:16.079 --> 01:37:18.359
It's like fish saying we do love it.

1826
01:37:18.720 --> 01:37:20.800
You do, you do love it. And not only that,

1827
01:37:20.800 --> 01:37:25.960
their relationship much like uh McCoy and the Queen uh,

1828
01:37:26.119 --> 01:37:31.239
per forms very quickly uh. And it's a firm bond.

1829
01:37:32.199 --> 01:37:34.600
And then the big honkin fish is willing to do

1830
01:37:35.199 --> 01:37:39.000
terrorism on behalf of dar Jar, which is great. You

1831
01:37:39.079 --> 01:37:40.840
want to be able to have a partner that is

1832
01:37:40.880 --> 01:37:42.079
willing to do terrorism for you.

1833
01:37:42.680 --> 01:37:47.359
That's the other classic rom com thank you. I appreciate

1834
01:37:47.399 --> 01:37:51.920
that mine is boring, but I think important. And it

1835
01:37:51.960 --> 01:37:53.159
is the McCoy.

1836
01:37:52.920 --> 01:37:58.159
And shoe boring boring that is pretty boring.

1837
01:37:58.960 --> 01:38:02.840
It's cannon. But you know what he talked about, his

1838
01:38:02.880 --> 01:38:03.520
little smirk.

1839
01:38:03.920 --> 01:38:05.880
You're right, he had the little horny smirk.

1840
01:38:06.640 --> 01:38:09.520
I'm just like, he doesn't really get to be a

1841
01:38:09.520 --> 01:38:12.520
little horny boy. Yeah, Like, he just doesn't. And I

1842
01:38:12.640 --> 01:38:15.800
like this opportunity for him. I shipped him with many people,

1843
01:38:16.479 --> 01:38:19.680
and I am glad to ship him canonically with someone

1844
01:38:19.720 --> 01:38:22.760
who is like says weird shit, like, yeah, we don't

1845
01:38:22.760 --> 01:38:25.880
know each other, but isn't that what it's about? We

1846
01:38:26.000 --> 01:38:31.640
get together and then we figure classically how relationships work.

1847
01:38:31.960 --> 01:38:38.840
She justrotty gentle with Natira as well, which is so good.

1848
01:38:39.560 --> 01:38:41.560
It's just lovely to watch.

1849
01:38:41.880 --> 01:38:45.359
It's so good. It's boring, but it's so good, so good,

1850
01:38:45.560 --> 01:38:46.319
what can we say?

1851
01:38:46.760 --> 01:38:49.680
Sometimes you're in the mood for a flavorless ice cream cone.

1852
01:38:49.880 --> 01:38:52.640
Sometimes you're just like, I can't wait to have these textures.

1853
01:38:53.079 --> 01:38:57.399
All right, okay, counterpoint, Vanilla an actual like like a

1854
01:38:57.600 --> 01:38:59.079
very dynamic flavor.

1855
01:38:58.880 --> 01:39:02.960
I saidilla. I said, la flavorless ice cream cone. I

1856
01:39:03.000 --> 01:39:06.520
did not say vanilla. I enjoy the taste of vanilla.

1857
01:39:06.920 --> 01:39:09.279
I said flavorless.

1858
01:39:09.560 --> 01:39:11.159
This is like we're getting into it now.

1859
01:39:11.359 --> 01:39:14.000
Wow, there's some real This is what happens an hour

1860
01:39:14.039 --> 01:39:15.319
and forty minutes into a podcast.

1861
01:39:15.560 --> 01:39:16.000
Yeah right.

1862
01:39:16.560 --> 01:39:19.159
Everyone was just like, I didn't fucking say that.

1863
01:39:20.359 --> 01:39:23.319
Excuse me, Patrick, what's it? What's it like? You do

1864
01:39:23.359 --> 01:39:26.600
a shorter, shorter show compared to George Lucas.

1865
01:39:26.720 --> 01:39:28.960
Yeah, no, it's great. I mean, look, I don't know

1866
01:39:29.039 --> 01:39:30.800
that it's a shorter show, you know what I mean?

1867
01:39:30.960 --> 01:39:33.359
As of now, it could be the same length.

1868
01:39:35.359 --> 01:39:37.279
I don't I don't think that we're going to reach

1869
01:39:37.319 --> 01:39:39.600
those heights. I don't know if we did, I think

1870
01:39:39.640 --> 01:39:42.439
Aspen would shoot me from Los Angeles. Yeah.

1871
01:39:42.800 --> 01:39:45.239
Yeah, well, Pasha's gotta go and I gotta go.

1872
01:39:45.399 --> 01:39:47.680
It's true, Patrick does have to be a Crosstown in

1873
01:39:47.760 --> 01:39:50.239
forty minutes, but he's he's stretching this as close as

1874
01:39:50.279 --> 01:39:50.600
he can.

1875
01:39:50.680 --> 01:39:51.279
So it's great.

1876
01:39:51.359 --> 01:39:54.439
Oh god, I'm not saying rush, We're doing great.

1877
01:39:54.520 --> 01:39:57.520
No, I didn't just recently experience the Like I went

1878
01:39:57.520 --> 01:40:00.319
to UCLA for a film screening. It was on a Saturday,

1879
01:40:00.439 --> 01:40:02.640
and so it really was like they were like, you

1880
01:40:02.720 --> 01:40:05.159
went to Westwood. I was like, I get it now,

1881
01:40:05.359 --> 01:40:07.640
I get it. I got you. I was like, it

1882
01:40:07.720 --> 01:40:08.239
wasn't bad.

1883
01:40:08.399 --> 01:40:08.960
I don't know.

1884
01:40:09.279 --> 01:40:11.479
I mean it was, but not I'd expected it.

1885
01:40:11.479 --> 01:40:15.159
You're doing it, You're doing fine. Yeah, I'm doing it.

1886
01:40:16.039 --> 01:40:18.600
Yeah, Okay, what is your spaceship that flies with the

1887
01:40:18.600 --> 01:40:20.199
sky slash Vehicle of Use?

1888
01:40:20.800 --> 01:40:23.279
I mean, I think that ship that's in that asteroid's

1889
01:40:23.279 --> 01:40:25.720
pretty cool. It's a good idea, but also it's probably

1890
01:40:25.760 --> 01:40:28.079
a bad idea because if you're flying through the sky

1891
01:40:28.119 --> 01:40:31.279
and you're like, hey, uh boss, there's an asteroid coming,

1892
01:40:31.319 --> 01:40:32.840
we should probably shoot it to get it out of

1893
01:40:32.880 --> 01:40:36.199
the way, you know, makes it a bad idea. I

1894
01:40:36.239 --> 01:40:38.600
also like that ship that falls apart, but then the

1895
01:40:38.600 --> 01:40:41.319
buttons still work, so you know what, I'm actually going

1896
01:40:41.399 --> 01:40:43.560
to go with the ship that falls apart from the work.

1897
01:40:43.880 --> 01:40:46.760
That's all a good choice. We do love it. We

1898
01:40:46.840 --> 01:40:51.239
do love a like Naboo Cruiser, but this specific one, that's.

1899
01:40:51.199 --> 01:40:54.079
That's that's got to be the canonical reason of why

1900
01:40:54.159 --> 01:40:56.319
Padme has a different ship in episode three because jar

1901
01:40:56.439 --> 01:41:00.000
Dark crippled. Did I tell you? Cruiser from episode two

1902
01:41:00.079 --> 01:41:01.760
again always played the damn music?

1903
01:41:01.800 --> 01:41:04.600
And my girlfriend watching this episode goes, oh, that's why

1904
01:41:04.640 --> 01:41:09.319
she has a different ship and I and I said,

1905
01:41:10.680 --> 01:41:13.119
I said, what are you talking about?

1906
01:41:14.720 --> 01:41:15.439
Girlfriend?

1907
01:41:15.920 --> 01:41:17.159
Girlfriend got it.

1908
01:41:18.079 --> 01:41:20.239
I actually think though that this is maybe like the

1909
01:41:20.279 --> 01:41:23.079
second time whenever ships has been destroyed, so like, oh,

1910
01:41:23.079 --> 01:41:25.399
we actually got blown up. I think she just has

1911
01:41:25.439 --> 01:41:28.399
a huge fleet of them and they all get destroyed

1912
01:41:28.800 --> 01:41:30.479
and that's what we end up in the third one.

1913
01:41:31.079 --> 01:41:32.600
Yes, oh this is good.

1914
01:41:32.600 --> 01:41:34.279
It is a good choice. It's a beautiful ship. We're

1915
01:41:34.319 --> 01:41:38.399
in love with. Naboo star Cruisers were obsessed when I

1916
01:41:38.479 --> 01:41:40.159
was When I was little, I got one of those

1917
01:41:40.159 --> 01:41:43.800
like McDonald's toys where it's like it could like balance

1918
01:41:43.840 --> 01:41:44.800
on your finger.

1919
01:41:44.680 --> 01:41:45.920
Yeah, yeah, a little thing.

1920
01:41:46.520 --> 01:41:48.159
Well, it wouldn't have been McDonald's. It would have been

1921
01:41:48.159 --> 01:41:49.479
a KFC taco well pizza.

1922
01:41:49.600 --> 01:41:51.880
Oh, you're right, you're right. So that's where I collect

1923
01:41:51.920 --> 01:41:55.920
all the POGs from. Yeah, great, great, and all the

1924
01:41:55.960 --> 01:41:59.560
PEPSI can'ts cool, Kenny, what's yours?

1925
01:42:01.920 --> 01:42:05.520
I don't know yet? Oh oh wait, oh thank goodness,

1926
01:42:05.520 --> 01:42:11.720
because Patrick didn't choose it. Shipping the asteroid will yeah whoa, oh,

1927
01:42:11.720 --> 01:42:12.399
thank goodness.

1928
01:42:13.199 --> 01:42:16.920
Yeah, I mean it's beautiful, okay to to like become

1929
01:42:16.920 --> 01:42:18.199
a more interesting person.

1930
01:42:18.880 --> 01:42:22.399
I'm so sorry. Ships in the civilizations within a planet,

1931
01:42:22.840 --> 01:42:24.840
very new and novel idea that they were pulling from

1932
01:42:24.920 --> 01:42:29.119
Robert hind Line as been Okay, isn't that cool? Isn't

1933
01:42:29.159 --> 01:42:31.800
that great? Didn't I do the research? Asspen, I'm such

1934
01:42:31.840 --> 01:42:33.039
a good and clever mood.

1935
01:42:33.119 --> 01:42:37.680
You're so good. You know. Technically, that asteroid Worm and

1936
01:42:37.840 --> 01:42:42.199
Empire is kind of like that ship, true, just like

1937
01:42:42.800 --> 01:42:46.159
a century like a generation ship moving through space. That

1938
01:42:46.279 --> 01:42:50.640
worm has been around for ee ages. And there's all

1939
01:42:50.680 --> 01:42:53.439
the mine ox they've been there for thousands of years.

1940
01:42:53.479 --> 01:42:56.279
Yeah, we don't know how old those mineox are.

1941
01:42:56.399 --> 01:42:56.640
Queen.

1942
01:42:57.239 --> 01:42:59.399
It sounds like Star Wars and This is very familiar

1943
01:42:59.439 --> 01:43:04.560
as Derek Mine is uh the slug water creature because

1944
01:43:04.640 --> 01:43:05.960
he is a vehicle.

1945
01:43:06.279 --> 01:43:10.600
Yeah, slug water creature getting a lot of representation. Yes,

1946
01:43:11.560 --> 01:43:13.520
a big part of that episode.

1947
01:43:13.880 --> 01:43:19.640
Literally, Yeah, they do leave him out of the water

1948
01:43:19.680 --> 01:43:21.479
for a very long time, and I was getting very

1949
01:43:21.479 --> 01:43:22.239
nervous about.

1950
01:43:22.079 --> 01:43:25.199
That, very anxious, very anxious. Now he's a he's a

1951
01:43:25.239 --> 01:43:31.159
beautiful baby book and he's a beautiful tool tool to

1952
01:43:31.199 --> 01:43:35.560
beat the bad Dudese, So fantastic, beautiful. Look at us,

1953
01:43:36.319 --> 01:43:37.600
look at us.

1954
01:43:37.520 --> 01:43:42.319
Ask and I appreciate your jovial attitude and uh general

1955
01:43:42.520 --> 01:43:46.600
just mode of friendship that you're presenting towards Patrick. But

1956
01:43:47.840 --> 01:43:49.159
that's not the point of the podcast.

1957
01:43:49.680 --> 01:43:51.319
Oh yeah, it's definitely not to be nice.

1958
01:43:51.199 --> 01:43:54.000
To hey, knock it off. Knock it off. We're here

1959
01:43:54.039 --> 01:43:54.960
to answer the one question.

1960
01:43:54.960 --> 01:43:57.840
The most important came on was I thought everyone was

1961
01:43:57.840 --> 01:43:58.680
going to be nice to me.

1962
01:43:59.399 --> 01:44:03.520
No, this is where the hammer meets the nail. Because

1963
01:44:04.159 --> 01:44:07.079
knock it Off is a binary. It can either only

1964
01:44:07.119 --> 01:44:09.680
be good or bad. And that's why we're going to

1965
01:44:09.720 --> 01:44:11.920
answer the question, which is better star Tuker star Wars

1966
01:44:12.039 --> 01:44:14.680
by ranking from zero to ten. I'm both for the

1967
01:44:14.680 --> 01:44:19.359
world is hollow. I have touched this guy versus bombbad Jedi.

1968
01:44:20.800 --> 01:44:26.640
Zero ten. Yeah, so you can. We can go first.

1969
01:44:26.680 --> 01:44:29.039
You can see. But like you trust your heart, you

1970
01:44:29.159 --> 01:44:32.039
feel whatever it is in your heart, you do, granular ship.

1971
01:44:32.000 --> 01:44:32.159
You do.

1972
01:44:32.800 --> 01:44:37.680
I'm okay, nice, nice, It's just it's just I spent

1973
01:44:38.119 --> 01:44:40.239
months being so anxious about this part.

1974
01:44:40.119 --> 01:44:40.840
Of this podcast.

1975
01:44:41.520 --> 01:44:47.239
I was like, when I get it wrong. No, I

1976
01:44:47.279 --> 01:44:50.720
still feel that way, but I'm cooler about it. No

1977
01:44:50.760 --> 01:44:56.880
one decides if I'm wrong or right except me. Okay, Yeah,

1978
01:44:56.920 --> 01:44:59.319
which one do you want to start with? Kenny? It

1979
01:44:59.359 --> 01:45:00.680
looks so series.

1980
01:45:00.399 --> 01:45:03.319
Over there, I'll go I'm messing with my spreadsheet. Dude.

1981
01:45:03.439 --> 01:45:06.399
It's it's bad. It's bad. It's bad. Air wow, okay,

1982
01:45:06.680 --> 01:45:07.159
air murk.

1983
01:45:09.119 --> 01:45:12.880
But for the World is vast. For the World is

1984
01:45:12.920 --> 01:45:13.720
a big fast.

1985
01:45:13.760 --> 01:45:16.600
I poke it that we're starting with for the for

1986
01:45:16.640 --> 01:45:19.439
the World is a big mass and aspens. What do

1987
01:45:19.479 --> 01:45:20.439
you rank this episode?

1988
01:45:23.000 --> 01:45:28.680
I'm gonna give it like a don't give it like a. Okay, Okay,

1989
01:45:28.840 --> 01:45:31.760
I really like I get to like the McCoy stuff,

1990
01:45:31.760 --> 01:45:33.760
and I think that actually ups it for me. And

1991
01:45:33.800 --> 01:45:36.720
there's nothing I particularly hated that I want to spike

1992
01:45:37.079 --> 01:45:39.720
Spie rank by any means. So I'm just gonna give

1993
01:45:39.760 --> 01:45:40.920
it like a little six.

1994
01:45:40.720 --> 01:45:45.319
Point one six point one, very respectable six point one,

1995
01:45:45.560 --> 01:45:47.479
considering that all of us were kind of like.

1996
01:45:48.479 --> 01:45:50.840
I mean, it was fine, which is I guess.

1997
01:45:51.159 --> 01:45:55.680
Oh, it's not necessarily a demarcation quality. It's just you know,

1998
01:45:55.880 --> 01:45:57.840
sometimes it's just like, yeah.

1999
01:45:57.960 --> 01:45:59.800
If he goes up from a five something to a six,

2000
01:46:00.119 --> 01:46:01.279
cause it it could be sure.

2001
01:46:01.319 --> 01:46:02.800
It could be like you've got peanut butter on the

2002
01:46:02.880 --> 01:46:04.000
roof of your mouth and you want to taste it,

2003
01:46:04.039 --> 01:46:07.199
and you go there, you go like ale pop up.

2004
01:46:07.439 --> 01:46:09.039
A pop up does mean dust me.

2005
01:46:09.560 --> 01:46:11.359
I think I'm gonna give for the world as hollow

2006
01:46:11.359 --> 01:46:16.439
and I have touched this guy a robust six wow

2007
01:46:16.560 --> 01:46:20.760
because Patrick kind of described it. This episode is like

2008
01:46:20.800 --> 01:46:25.399
other episodes. The only thing that really does make it

2009
01:46:25.640 --> 01:46:29.520
stand out is watching McCoy being sincere, and I think

2010
01:46:29.560 --> 01:46:33.319
that also requires context of who the heck doctor McCoy is,

2011
01:46:33.359 --> 01:46:36.920
so I'm not sure how that works. Also, the weird

2012
01:46:37.239 --> 01:46:40.960
this is the second episode of this season, the Paradise

2013
01:46:41.000 --> 01:46:44.039
Syndrome being one of them where they are like there's

2014
01:46:44.079 --> 01:46:47.039
a ticking clock, there's gonna be an asteroid crash, in

2015
01:46:47.079 --> 01:46:52.359
three hundred and ninety six days. Why why have that? Why?

2016
01:46:53.279 --> 01:46:54.960
What does that mean? You don't need that?

2017
01:46:57.159 --> 01:46:59.199
So there's like no stakes to it.

2018
01:46:59.479 --> 01:47:02.800
Now, McCoy's gonna die in a year.

2019
01:47:05.199 --> 01:47:07.760
And also it just is fine like that, He's just

2020
01:47:07.800 --> 01:47:09.000
like we figured it out.

2021
01:47:09.239 --> 01:47:12.319
I was. This episode happens over the course of what

2022
01:47:12.439 --> 01:47:15.079
forty eight hours, seventy two hours, but for some reason

2023
01:47:15.079 --> 01:47:17.600
there are two ticking clocks that are thrown way in

2024
01:47:17.640 --> 01:47:21.039
the future. It doesn't it doesn't make sense in terms

2025
01:47:21.079 --> 01:47:27.239
of just basic drum drum drama, drama, drama. Uh. Patrick,

2026
01:47:27.279 --> 01:47:28.359
do you have any opinions about this?

2027
01:47:28.840 --> 01:47:30.760
Yeah? I mean the craziest thing is when you said

2028
01:47:30.760 --> 01:47:32.399
we were gonna rank it, I had a number in

2029
01:47:32.439 --> 01:47:35.439
my head and I said, I'll probably change it like one.

2030
01:47:35.520 --> 01:47:37.640
They're describing it like maybe it'll go up or down

2031
01:47:37.640 --> 01:47:40.880
depending on what they say. Shockingly, I'm leaving it this

2032
01:47:40.960 --> 01:47:43.119
because I think it's funny that I'm the highest of

2033
01:47:43.159 --> 01:47:46.479
the three. I appreciate that the number I said in

2034
01:47:46.520 --> 01:47:47.880
my brain was six point two.

2035
01:47:49.199 --> 01:47:54.239
Yeah you love Yeah, you'll love to see it. Yeah, Yes,

2036
01:47:55.000 --> 01:47:57.560
I like that. Averages out for the world is hollow

2037
01:47:57.640 --> 01:47:59.760
and I have touched the guy into six point one,

2038
01:47:59.800 --> 01:48:03.640
but still anybody's game. As we go over to bomb

2039
01:48:03.680 --> 01:48:06.119
Bat Jedi aske Been, what the heck do you rank

2040
01:48:06.159 --> 01:48:06.600
this one?

2041
01:48:06.920 --> 01:48:13.399
Okay, Henny, my name Kenny, what's up?

2042
01:48:13.439 --> 01:48:13.720
Boss?

2043
01:48:15.319 --> 01:48:19.439
Let me think in a great time.

2044
01:48:19.880 --> 01:48:20.319
That's great.

2045
01:48:20.319 --> 01:48:22.359
I'm glad and a great time. It feels like it's

2046
01:48:22.359 --> 01:48:27.319
in the seven range, seven range, seven range, But I

2047
01:48:27.359 --> 01:48:32.199
really enjoyed it. I had a really good time. Gonna

2048
01:48:32.319 --> 01:48:33.479
I'm gonna give this one a little bit of a.

2049
01:48:33.439 --> 01:48:36.680
Seven point four, A little bit of a seven point four.

2050
01:48:37.119 --> 01:48:39.079
Okay, so you have to like feel it in your soul, you.

2051
01:48:39.079 --> 01:48:40.279
Know you love to see it.

2052
01:48:41.000 --> 01:48:41.800
It's going to go there.

2053
01:48:48.319 --> 01:48:51.359
I think I'm going to give this one a six

2054
01:48:51.600 --> 01:48:52.239
point one?

2055
01:48:52.960 --> 01:48:55.760
What we're gonna give it so much lower?

2056
01:48:56.960 --> 01:49:02.079
I do think that this is a bad episode. Wow.

2057
01:49:02.880 --> 01:49:05.680
But also I'm just thinking about this, and I'm going

2058
01:49:05.720 --> 01:49:08.039
which one would I rather watch? Would I rather watch

2059
01:49:08.119 --> 01:49:11.920
this twenty two minute a tonal mess that has interesting

2060
01:49:11.960 --> 01:49:17.399
things to kind of say about George Lucas and the

2061
01:49:17.439 --> 01:49:21.319
clone Wars and the mess the weirdness of it. Or

2062
01:49:21.359 --> 01:49:23.960
would I rather watch this milk a toast episode than

2063
01:49:23.960 --> 01:49:26.520
I could? I go watch a better star Trek episode,

2064
01:49:26.600 --> 01:49:30.520
and also that one's fifty minutes versus twenty two minutes.

2065
01:49:32.039 --> 01:49:33.720
There's a lot happening.

2066
01:49:34.039 --> 01:49:37.439
But nothing at all truly their stuff happens.

2067
01:49:37.520 --> 01:49:40.199
We see Anakin's Jedi robe.

2068
01:49:41.000 --> 01:49:43.199
No, I mean in the Star Trek going nothing else.

2069
01:49:43.239 --> 01:49:44.560
Oh yeah, what happens.

2070
01:49:44.560 --> 01:49:45.199
So much happens.

2071
01:49:45.600 --> 01:49:48.680
Jay. What's what's great about for the world is hollow

2072
01:49:48.680 --> 01:49:50.239
and I have touched this guy. Is that you could

2073
01:49:50.279 --> 01:49:52.840
watch the first ten minutes, take a little tasty now,

2074
01:49:53.520 --> 01:49:55.640
and then wake up and you're like, I know exactly

2075
01:49:55.640 --> 01:49:56.560
what the status quo is.

2076
01:49:56.640 --> 01:49:58.520
Yeah, yep, cool.

2077
01:49:58.960 --> 01:50:02.319
Speaking of the status quot, Oh, Patrick, you can completely

2078
01:50:02.359 --> 01:50:03.479
disrupt the status quo.

2079
01:50:03.800 --> 01:50:06.000
Yeah, which I'm going to and you know I'm going to.

2080
01:50:07.000 --> 01:50:11.159
It could be anyone's game. Yeah, if tension is palpable,

2081
01:50:11.359 --> 01:50:11.720
I mean.

2082
01:50:11.640 --> 01:50:13.800
I just want bombad Jeny to have a good score.

2083
01:50:13.840 --> 01:50:15.199
So I'm going to say eight point three.

2084
01:50:16.000 --> 01:50:20.560
Yes, this is what people should be doing. The should

2085
01:50:20.560 --> 01:50:23.159
be like, you know what, I want it to fucking win.

2086
01:50:23.319 --> 01:50:25.800
Look what is they fight for the ones you love,

2087
01:50:25.920 --> 01:50:28.319
not the takedown, the ones you hate. Whatever the frick

2088
01:50:28.439 --> 01:50:32.760
that Rose Tico thing is whatever she says Taco roastico.

2089
01:50:32.960 --> 01:50:36.000
Well when not fighting for the ones who love. Yeah,

2090
01:50:36.079 --> 01:50:39.640
fighting us once we hate. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right.

2091
01:50:39.920 --> 01:50:43.439
This is right, that's right. We did it well. Speaking

2092
01:50:43.439 --> 01:50:45.760
of fighting for the ones that you love, Bombat Jedi

2093
01:50:45.880 --> 01:50:49.079
wins the week with a robust seven point two seven

2094
01:50:49.239 --> 01:50:50.800
versus the poor, The world is hollow and I have

2095
01:50:50.840 --> 01:50:55.079
touched the kites paltry six point one. You do love to.

2096
01:50:55.079 --> 01:50:58.079
See it, We love to see it. I would say

2097
01:50:58.079 --> 01:51:01.960
this is a six story the truth for those who's

2098
01:51:02.000 --> 01:51:05.119
are the good people, the good people.

2099
01:51:04.920 --> 01:51:05.439
Good people of.

2100
01:51:07.479 --> 01:51:08.119
Varna.

2101
01:51:09.199 --> 01:51:13.439
Speaking of the good people, Patrick, Uh, what what the

2102
01:51:13.439 --> 01:51:14.800
heck do you have to plug? Oh?

2103
01:51:14.800 --> 01:51:16.600
My gosh, too many things, too many things.

2104
01:51:16.760 --> 01:51:19.560
Great. George's talk show Cross Town.

2105
01:51:19.880 --> 01:51:22.399
We'll start with that, and I do in twenty seven minutes,

2106
01:51:22.439 --> 01:51:28.279
and I need to take a shower. George Lucas Talk Show. Uh,

2107
01:51:28.319 --> 01:51:30.399
it's a talk show hosted by comedian Connor ratle If.

2108
01:51:30.439 --> 01:51:33.239
He plays George Lucas. Comedian Griffin Newman plays Wado as

2109
01:51:33.239 --> 01:51:36.520
his sidekick. I'm on there. I'm their on screen producer.

2110
01:51:36.560 --> 01:51:39.039
We interview real people, treat it like a normal talk show.

2111
01:51:39.119 --> 01:51:42.520
Insane famous people have been on. Whoopee Goldberg, Seth Meyers,

2112
01:51:42.560 --> 01:51:45.399
weird Al, Darcy Carter, and Rachel Ziegeler. I'm ed Best,

2113
01:51:45.720 --> 01:51:48.039
our good buddy, I'm ed best from this episode.

2114
01:51:49.119 --> 01:51:49.920
Actual friends.

2115
01:51:50.000 --> 01:51:51.720
Yeah, well, I don't know if i'd say that, but yeah,

2116
01:51:51.880 --> 01:51:55.399
you know, acquaintance we've met. You can find them all

2117
01:51:55.399 --> 01:51:57.560
on YouTube, find a guest that you like, and then

2118
01:51:57.600 --> 01:52:00.600
just watch that way. There's a documentary about the show

2119
01:52:00.600 --> 01:52:03.119
and about Connor out right now. It's called I'm George

2120
01:52:03.159 --> 01:52:06.399
Lucas' Connor Ratliffe Story. It's on vod. It just got

2121
01:52:06.439 --> 01:52:09.680
announced that it's going to be on Apple, you know,

2122
01:52:09.720 --> 01:52:13.760
iTunes and all the other VOD platforms on August twentieth.

2123
01:52:14.279 --> 01:52:16.119
But you can watch it now if you would like to.

2124
01:52:16.399 --> 01:52:18.560
Hopefully also, what's coming working on that?

2125
01:52:19.520 --> 01:52:22.199
What's the way that if we rented it y'all would

2126
01:52:22.199 --> 01:52:23.279
get the most money.

2127
01:52:23.359 --> 01:52:24.159
It's a great question.

2128
01:52:24.279 --> 01:52:24.800
I don't know.

2129
01:52:24.840 --> 01:52:26.880
If you go to I'm George Lucas dot com, it's

2130
01:52:26.960 --> 01:52:28.920
up there. I would say maybe the way it is now,

2131
01:52:28.960 --> 01:52:31.079
but it's not the most convenient way that you'll be

2132
01:52:31.079 --> 01:52:33.159
able to watch it, So I would personally wait for

2133
01:52:33.199 --> 01:52:35.680
it to be on iTunes or Amazon or whatever those

2134
01:52:35.720 --> 01:52:36.119
things are.

2135
01:52:37.079 --> 01:52:38.520
You just want us to send you money.

2136
01:52:38.760 --> 01:52:40.880
You want us to send you money past, Here's what

2137
01:52:40.880 --> 01:52:42.680
I also saying. None of the money is going to

2138
01:52:42.680 --> 01:52:45.960
me personally. So if you want to send me money, yeah,

2139
01:52:46.000 --> 01:52:49.640
one hundred percent, I'll start for you. Yeah yeah, yeah,

2140
01:52:49.640 --> 01:52:53.359
you'll find me very available. I'm very out there. Also

2141
01:52:53.800 --> 01:52:57.520
in May, we did a live read of The Phantom

2142
01:52:57.560 --> 01:52:59.079
Menace at Dynasty Typewriter.

2143
01:53:00.039 --> 01:53:01.159
I'm going to be at the I'm going to be

2144
01:53:01.279 --> 01:53:02.000
the next one great.

2145
01:53:02.039 --> 01:53:03.439
I was going to tell you to do it great

2146
01:53:04.119 --> 01:53:07.119
called the nat Boom Movie. It was insane. Haley Jolasman

2147
01:53:07.159 --> 01:53:09.960
played Annak and Tony Hale was Qui Gon. Bobby moynahan

2148
01:53:10.039 --> 01:53:13.439
did full SNL style makeup as Darth Maul. It's truly bananas.

2149
01:53:13.680 --> 01:53:16.159
If you go to a Nawboom movie dot com, it'll

2150
01:53:16.159 --> 01:53:17.960
show up. It's on YouTube. You can watch it there

2151
01:53:18.000 --> 01:53:20.279
for free. When does this come out?

2152
01:53:21.720 --> 01:53:25.199
This Friday? This writ a great? August tenth at Dinasty Well,

2153
01:53:25.680 --> 01:53:26.600
next Friday, next great.

2154
01:53:26.640 --> 01:53:30.800
It still doesn't matter. August tenth at Dynasty Typewriter. We're

2155
01:53:30.840 --> 01:53:33.399
doing the Great Camino Kaper, which is our live reading

2156
01:53:33.479 --> 01:53:36.039
of Star Wars Episode two, Attack of the Clones. A

2157
01:53:36.079 --> 01:53:38.159
lot of the cast is coming back, but some truly

2158
01:53:38.199 --> 01:53:44.119
insane people will be also there, including someone from the

2159
01:53:44.119 --> 01:53:49.399
movie reprising their role, which will probably be announced at

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this point, but I'm going to wait until then to

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say it. But you can live stream it or you

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can come in person if you're in the LA area.

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Buy a livestream ticket. It's very helpful. It's it's helpful,

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and you know on Twitter, Patrick Cottoner on Instagram, Cottoner websites,

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Patrick Conner dot com.

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It's all over the place, just standing as when you

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got anything to plug, nok uh cool, then I will

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plug my personal venmo and PayPal. Just look up the

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Kenny Madison on venmoar or PayPal. Just send me some money,

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why not. We're doing it. But if you'd rather go

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give your money to something else, why not hop over

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to our Patreon, patreon dot com, slash track, warse pod

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or for five dollars a month, you can get early

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versions of these episodes and extended versions of these episodes.

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But you're not cutting this one down at all, correct.

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We're actually going to be adding twenty minutes. Hey, you

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need to fix Rise of Skywalker.

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Maybe you want to fix this episode exactly.

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I think this is a dynamite episode.

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It's great. I'm joking obviously, Patrick.

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I don't know kenned is Patrick.

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I'll tell you after we finished recording.

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Thank you, honey. You know you know who does like us?

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Our patrons such as Timbo De Sosa, Emily Brice, Love,

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Heidi Rogers, Kevin Miller, Arizona, Mark Austin, Aaron and lastly,

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but certainly not leastly, Joel t Partner, who composed the

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I Starship theme song. Our theme song in general was

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composed by mister tosin aifesso. Please go down to the

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show notes, click on his profile and go check out

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more of his musicality. And again, just want to reiterate.

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Find my name on Vemo or pal. Just send me,

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just send me loose money. I will not reject it.

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Charity is appreciated. Patrick. We cannot thank you enough for

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as much of your time.

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I like you both.

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Oh my god, keep it in.

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Yeah, I like you. I like you. I love you too.

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Aspen and listeners, we love you. No one said if

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they liked me, we really liked you. We wanted to

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continue the dynamic Miel. We really like we really enjoy

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you live long and prosper, and may the Force be

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with you.

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M a microphone clench